2016 Postmortem

pnwmom

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71. No, she didn't. Because there was no protocol till after she left State.

Sat Jan 30, 2016, 06:10 AM

Jan 2016

The President was well aware of her private email account and previous state departments had avoided the clunky .gov email system. There was no protocol for her to follow. All she had to do was make sure she archived her emails -- unlike the Rethugs, who destroyed millions with no consequences -- and she did that.

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Who had greater authority than Hillary to classify or declassify State Dept info? [View all] pnwmom Jan 2016 OP

And if she used proper judgement she would have never bkkyosemite Jan 2016 #1

Why? It wasn't any less safe than the computers Snowden had access to. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #2

It rained here last Thursday. bvf Jan 2016 #8

Considering those were Government IS's VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #24

It's not against the rules when I do it because I make the rules. Cheese Sandwich Jan 2016 #3

The evil is in the practice of "retroactive classification," by which pnwmom Jan 2016 #5

It really doesn't matter what HRC does or don 't do, GOP masters will fine something Iliyah Jan 2016 #4

Make no mistake, the GOP, Karl Rove, Koch Bros, HATE Hillary, I mean they randys1 Jan 2016 #6

They hate Obama, too. They hate any powerful Dem. They will have Bernie, too, pnwmom Jan 2016 #10

And since the emails werent top secret when she recieved them I dont know why it is randys1 Jan 2016 #12

It's not illegal when the President does it Fumesucker Jan 2016 #7

The issue for Nixon had nothing to do with this. The law very clearly sets out pnwmom Jan 2016 #9

Are you saying Hillary declassified the information? Fumesucker Jan 2016 #11

I'm saying it wasn't classified in the first place and that the whole issue now pnwmom Jan 2016 #13

Because they contain sensitive information. cheapdate Jan 2016 #18

Yes, I'm sure republicans and independents will agree. Not cali Jan 2016 #14

It isn't a liabiity at all. They're just playing gullible Dems. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #16

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2016 #15

Agency heads do NOT have authority to declassify documents classified by other agencies leveymg Jan 2016 #17

This is one of the lamest threads today, and there have been a bunch. It's dumbfounding. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #44

I don't believe it all orginated at state. Plus some types have to be classified. Skwmom Jan 2016 #19

There has never been any report of a document from somewhere else pnwmom Jan 2016 #20

Do you have evidence of your assertion? n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #22

It isn't possible for me to know about all of her 55,000 unreleased emails. pnwmom Jan 2016 #26

The finding that documents on the server are TS/SAP shows these were DOD docs. leveymg Jan 2016 #23

+1, as someone with an SCI. VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #25

That would only be the case for DOD documents that are classified. There is no report pnwmom Jan 2016 #30

Why the bloody hell would something that ISN'T DoD VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #31

The DOD doesn't mark every one of its documents classified. pnwmom Jan 2016 #32

Clever use of my own question, but unfortunately, that doesn't answer mine. VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #37

You are wrong. The SAP is a designation also used in the State Department. pnwmom Jan 2016 #39

Not every DOD document is classified. How do you know any of these were? pnwmom Jan 2016 #28

NBC News:"Clinton's emails contained information classified Top Secret/Special Access Program" leveymg Jan 2016 #33

So what? The Dept of State uses these designations and Hillary as the agency head pnwmom Jan 2016 #40

The documents originated with another agency, NBC reported leveymg Jan 2016 #50

SAP is also a DOS designation. The designation doesn't tell us where it originated. pnwmom Jan 2016 #43

NBC reported the classified docs on her server were from an "intelligence agency" not DOS leveymg Jan 2016 #51

Not true - and that is why so many were sending lots of emails to the other karynnj Jan 2016 #38

Read the legal language again. She had the ultimate authority, pnwmom Jan 2016 #21

She only had classification authority over DOS originated information. Not TS/SAP or TS/SCI leveymg Jan 2016 #27

That was the presumption but she could overrule that presumption. pnwmom Jan 2016 #29

The TS/SAP classified docs were DOD materials. She's cooked. leveymg Jan 2016 #34

How do you know they were DOD materials? State documents can have those pnwmom Jan 2016 #42

It was stated in the NBC article that the TS/SAP docs were "intelligence agency" leveymg Jan 2016 #49

DOS documents can be designated SAP -- it isn't exclusively a term used by the DOD. pnwmom Jan 2016 #41

In this instance, NBC identified the source of the TS/SAP documents as an "intelligence agency" leveymg Jan 2016 #45

Yep this OP is woefully confused. askew Jan 2016 #47

How could she be sure that unseen incoming mail was not classified? 2pooped2pop Jan 2016 #35

Classified info gets sent from a classified server to another classified server. pnwmom Jan 2016 #36

Any TS docs should not have been on her nonsecure server. leveymg Jan 2016 #46

Any TS docs should not have been on her nonsecure server. leveymg Jan 2016 #48

Surely you are not suggesting that every piece of classified info thereismore Jan 2016 #52

No. I am stating that the President and the agency heads have the authority pnwmom Jan 2016 #54

Good thread on this Jarqui Jan 2016 #53

No, there is no evidence that 1300 times classified material got into her emails. pnwmom Jan 2016 #56

I think there's evidence of 1,300 because I've seen it so many times Jarqui Jan 2016 #58

And none of them were classified at the time according to your own link: pnwmom Jan 2016 #59

I think that's a common folly in this Jarqui Jan 2016 #60

#2 has NOT been proven to be false. Nothing that she did has pnwmom Jan 2016 #61

Read the inspector generals reports Jarqui Jan 2016 #64

You mean the Republican operative who used to be an inspector General? pnwmom Jan 2016 #65

Are the email communications between the president and the secretary of state classified? Jarqui Jan 2016 #66

According to the spokesman, NONE of them were classified at the time they were sent. pnwmom Jan 2016 #67

Plainly Wrong Jarqui Jan 2016 #68

Sheer nonsense. pnwmom Jan 2016 #69

I'm sorry your spin is so wrong Arazi Jan 2016 #55

Sorry, but I think the State Department spokesman, coupled with the actual pnwmom Jan 2016 #57

I'm not sure why you think that has any real meaning in relation to this story loyalsister Jan 2016 #62

The bottom line is that you have no evidence for your claim. And neither do any of pnwmom Jan 2016 #63

She admitted that she didn't follow the protocol loyalsister Jan 2016 #70

No, she didn't. Because there was no protocol till after she left State. pnwmom Jan 2016 #71

I'm thinking the legal problem will boil down to madville Jan 2016 #72