2016 Postmortem

Lucinda

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206. If you are serious here are a few links

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:41 PM

Jan 2016

Her overall position is that it wasn't the cause of the crisis and that a reinstatement of something crafted in 1933 isn't specific enough to solve the problems in 2016.

A little commentary about Glass-Stegall and why it didn't effect the crisis here:
http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/14/investing/democratic-debate-what-is-glass-steagall-act/

This one is a point by point explanation from Andrew Ross Sorkin - with comments from Elizabeth Warren:
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/reinstating-an-old-rule-is-not-a-cure-for-crisis/?_r=0

And this is Hillary's specifics:
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-10-08/hillary-clinton-s-plan-to-prevent-the-next-crash

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Krugman nails it, re: Bernie fans [View all] DanTex Jan 2016 OP

Ever More Utter Rubbish From The Establishment cantbeserious Jan 2016 #1

And you weren't trying to be ironic. Which is funny in itself. You proved Dantex/Krugman's point. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #110

No - Krugman - Proves The Point cantbeserious Jan 2016 #147

Did you see that Krugman has come out of Single Payer? kristopher Jan 2016 #150

Five years ago... brooklynite Jan 2016 #171

Actually it does mean he supports 'Bernie's Approach' kristopher Jan 2016 #172

You think there's only one way to do single payer? Recursion Jan 2016 #187

Right out of the box. Couldn't have played out better. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #183

You nailed it. Thank you for the highly accurate post. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #126

Agree. I can smell the fear. And while I am a fan, I am no Berniac. But I can see dinkytron Jan 2016 #180

See The Corolary Phenomenon As It Played Out In The UK With Corbyn's Election cantbeserious Jan 2016 #185

"Intellectually, a segment of the far left is growing to resemble the Glenn Beck right" Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #2

Just like Glenn Beck had Nazi Tourette's, Hillary supporters are evincing "Commie Tourettes" hobbit709 Jan 2016 #4

According to Krugman, whose progressive credentials outweigh Sanders supporters combined. Metric System Jan 2016 #6

Again, awesome tactic. Alienate a huge segment of the Dem electorate. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #19

Sanders supporters don't seem too worried about alienating Democrats. Metric System Jan 2016 #20

It's today's politics unfortunately. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #23

Accurate assessment. Metric System Jan 2016 #30

So it goes, ad infinitum. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #40

Which makes you different from your fellow Bernie supporters, since they keep claiming they'll synergie Jan 2016 #111

I know you don't need me- or us. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #121

The majority of my family and friends are Sanders supporters... unapatriciated Jan 2016 #204

Nice projection there, alienate and literally abuse any and all who dare to not fall in line with synergie Jan 2016 #105

Same to you, jerk. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #119

Well, Sanders fans have alienated even larger segments of the Democratic party. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #113

Again, I accept the you hate us. And, we hate you. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #120

Judging by on going Bernie Supporter comments here, at Krugman, Sheepshank Jan 2016 #149

Krugman couldn't figure out what was wrong with the TPP and like Hillary raindaddy Jan 2016 #84

In logic, your comment is sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #115

The defense is in the hate directed at him for daring to not fawn over Bernie and his undercooked Metric System Jan 2016 #116

Wrong again. sulphurdunn Jan 2016 #128

I don't consider Krugman a progressive. Just another neoliberal hack snoringvoter Jan 2016 #125

Krugman nailed it--must have peeped into GD-P riversedge Jan 2016 #14

Fine, OK. We're the loony left. Got it. Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #21

They forgot to mention beltanefauve Jan 2016 #168

Funny thing is... I do drive a Volvo... Still In Wisconsin Jan 2016 #169

Noam Chomsky's first political donation was to Bernie! SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #79

Agreed Gothmog Jan 2016 #199

I don't recall saying anything about you personally. DanTex Jan 2016 #26

Noam Chomsky's first political donation was to Bernie! SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #77

We far-leftists have to stick together snoringvoter Jan 2016 #124

Bullseye. Metric System Jan 2016 #3

Noam Chomsky's first political donation was to Bernie! SoLeftIAmRight Jan 2016 #80

What would we do without our daily "Sanders supporters are Mean" post? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #5

I have come to enjoy these OPs. They reveal so much Autumn Jan 2016 #8

I'm old enough to remember how a broken record would skip notadmblnd Jan 2016 #34

F Paul Krugman..... LovingA2andMI Jan 2016 #140

Perhaps only get to read the 100s of "Hillary is evil" posts Stuckinthebush Jan 2016 #9

Is that what you come here to do? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #25

Yes, exactly Stuckinthebush Jan 2016 #27

Well isn't that special? notadmblnd Jan 2016 #39

Never asked for it Stuckinthebush Jan 2016 #42

Good to know Sander's supporters are not alone in their ability to be so mean. notadmblnd Jan 2016 #55

Cracking me up! Stuckinthebush Jan 2016 #68

Huff? I wasn't huffing. I was going off the read the 100's of hateful threads in regards to HRC notadmblnd Jan 2016 #89

Welcome to the club Krugman. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #7

But we don't swarm social media, threaten those who don't support our candidate or sling Metric System Jan 2016 #11

Yes, the Sanders fans swarming of good Democrats is shameful on social media sites. but they do riversedge Jan 2016 #15

The "swarming" is called social media because people express their positions....and... Armstead Jan 2016 #48

As was the case with Krugman. See post #184. Anyone can cherry pick comments from a few nutcases and Chathamization Jan 2016 #186

We have different ideas about what makes a good democrat. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #49

Yep Kalidurga Jan 2016 #153

Yes that is true. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #16

So, stop listening to the supporters. Pay more attention and listen to your own Cal33 Jan 2016 #41

That was not the point of this. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #57

Well, good for you. Over a year ago I was hoping that Elizabeth Warren would run. When it became Cal33 Jan 2016 #107

Yes. My point is that some Sanders supporters can be overbearing. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #152

Over a year ago? snoringvoter Jan 2016 #129

I voted for Hillary 5 times before and I was ready to support her a year ago. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #154

How about the Wall St. bankers and corporatists? They robbed the property and Cal33 Jan 2016 #161

Hillary is no tool of wall street. and you are convincing me that she is. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #163

Who is "presidential" or not is an extremely vague and very personal idea. It can have Cal33 Jan 2016 #167

Curiously timed evolution, that Kall Jan 2016 #176

Good points, snoringvoter. senz Jan 2016 #159

Sometimes I Wonder if Sanders supporters have an understaning of politics. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #177

Attacking the supporters of the other candidate is not a good way to win elections Gothmog Jan 2016 #200

My sincere apologies Armstead Jan 2016 #52

You have nothing to apologize for. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #64

yes you do Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #18

Bernie calls himself a Socialist redstateblues Jan 2016 #43

he calls himself a DEMOCRATIC socialist Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #100

I'm finding more pragmatism Stuckinthebush Jan 2016 #17

+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #54

How sad. bvf Jan 2016 #22

Here's one from a U.S Senator Depaysement Jan 2016 #60

Some supporters of both candidates do this and it has become tiring. Dustlawyer Jan 2016 #106

Let me offset the hate some ejbr Jan 2016 #108

Thank you. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #156

so the question is... ypsfonos Jan 2016 #144

"which was surprising because I don’t have a son" sufrommich Jan 2016 #10

Millions of people in this country are SUFFERING! Gregorian Jan 2016 #12

LOL! Krugman's early pieces once fed the masses that he now mocks. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #13

Exhibit 1 MoonRiver Jan 2016 #31

I disagree. Bleacher Creature Jan 2016 #45

I can hear you. Baitball Blogger Jan 2016 #85

This is a sad statement on Krugman's character. last1standing Jan 2016 #24

He's not knocking people who have been adversely affected by the economic situation. DanTex Jan 2016 #32

Lol! Try again. The people "attacking" him are not the elite and you know that. last1standing Jan 2016 #44

They're not certainly not intellectually elite. DanTex Jan 2016 #50

Except if Sanders' plans don't stand up to analysis mythology Jan 2016 #33

Over 100 respected economists say they do stand up to analysis. last1standing Jan 2016 #37

Umm, Bernie's healthcare plan came out last weekend. DanTex Jan 2016 #47

Umm, I think you need to look back at Krugman's economic theories. last1standing Jan 2016 #56

I'm very familiar with his economics. DanTex Jan 2016 #63

You're obviously not or you'd know what he used to think about deregulation and unrestrained FTAs. last1standing Jan 2016 #70

I am very familiar with his economics. DanTex Jan 2016 #76

Familiarity with a broad concept does not mean an understanding of its particulars. last1standing Jan 2016 #87

I understand the particulars very well. DanTex Jan 2016 #88

No, you really don't, and that's sad. last1standing Jan 2016 #95

Yes, I really do, and it's happy. DanTex Jan 2016 #99

You forgot to mention Glen Beck this time. last1standing Jan 2016 #101

A fact-free post from you. Gee, I'm surprised. DanTex Jan 2016 #104

Recycling my words won't make you look more clever. last1standing Jan 2016 #122

Best thing is do is put him on ignore and move on snoringvoter Jan 2016 #135

In fact that would 170 economic experts ypsfonos Jan 2016 #146

Attack the man's character and not take on the substance of his post Politicub Jan 2016 #36

I wrote about both, but don't worry your head with facts. last1standing Jan 2016 #38

Your reply made me LOL - "I attacked both" Politicub Jan 2016 #51

Do you know what quotation marks are used for in the English language? last1standing Jan 2016 #59

Keep it going, last1 Politicub Jan 2016 #67

LOL! So the answer seems to be 'no.' last1standing Jan 2016 #72

So you're waiting for an answer to your rhetorical question? Politicub Jan 2016 #86

No. I'm waiting for you to admit you posted a lie since I never wrote what you claimed. last1standing Jan 2016 #98

+1 !! uponit7771 Jan 2016 #118

Somebody wanted to wash your mouth out with soap. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #46

I was Juror #2. nt OnyxCollie Jan 2016 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author last1standing Jan 2016 #90

Ha! Thanks for posting their pathetic attempt at censorship. last1standing Jan 2016 #141

HIS "character"? How about the character of those he's talking about? George II Jan 2016 #82

We are all diminished by binary and exclusionary thinking. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #28

That would include binary rejection of change and reform Armstead Jan 2016 #73

Funny how a segment of the Centre can be accused of the same thing. malthaussen Jan 2016 #29

He got out of the left side of the bed, as usual. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #35

This ... BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #66

You're welcome! MoonRiver Jan 2016 #97

Krugman is not infallible. OnyxCollie Jan 2016 #53

It is NOT honest analyzing. It is twisting, spinning, & distorting to mislead the American public. Skwmom Jan 2016 #58

Is Krugman being paid? Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2016 #62

Probably begging for a Cabinet appointment. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #71

Thank you for wonderfully illustrating his point. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #83

His son is being paid by hillary gwheezie Jan 2016 #92

LOL Empowerer Jan 2016 #134

Sticks and stones. We've stopped believing what the establishment valerief Jan 2016 #65

Krugman got $50,000 from Enron, then was Shocked! and Surprised! Dems to Win Jan 2016 #69

I'm confused. Was it Bernie supporters attacking him 2008? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #74

teach me porkified Jan 2016 #75

If you are serious here are a few links Lucinda Jan 2016 #206

It's truly frightening how BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #78

So true santafe52 Jan 2016 #81

What happen INdemo Jan 2016 #91

Yup, that's exactly the kind of smear he was talking about. Thanks for illustrating. DanTex Jan 2016 #93

This: Orrex Jan 2016 #94

Exactly! This is similar to how RWers use "patriot" R B Garr Jan 2016 #142

Krugman, I Crunch Numbers scottie55 Jan 2016 #96

Wow, a lot of the establishment types are still not getting it. Mbrow Jan 2016 #102

Absolutely true and well put, Mbrow. Cassidy Jan 2016 #158

Thanks, Of course none of them Mbrow Jan 2016 #164

#wallstreetlivesmatter Indepatriot Jan 2016 #103

And Ideologue appeals to other ideologues. Sanders- the One Trick Pony trotting out his tired spiel KittyWampus Jan 2016 #109

We're such a disappointment... whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #112

always refreshing to see someone from our side nail the situation squarely DrDan Jan 2016 #114

"..I’m getting the kind of correspondence I usually get from Rush Limbaugh listeners..." LOL !!! uponit7771 Jan 2016 #117

This exactly. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #123

Krugman should stick to economics, instead of shilling for Establishment candidates. 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #127

He's still a supporter of single payer. DanTex Jan 2016 #131

He wants a cabinet job but he can forget that INdemo Jan 2016 #155

He's a regular on Sunday Talk and thinks he's not part of the establishment? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #130

Not like he's been in congress for 20 years or anything like that. DanTex Jan 2016 #132

I've heard Hillary supporters claim Bernie was alone the whole time. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #133

The Revolution will not be scrutinized... LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #136

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2016 #137

The important thing to realize kennetha Jan 2016 #138

Generally I agree, but… Akamai Jan 2016 #143

Those types of people tend not to come to places like DU where disagreement is assured Fumesucker Jan 2016 #181

I do like Paul Krugman, but I think in this instance, he is just wrong. Akamai Jan 2016 #139

Warning! The following post contains petulant and childish sarcasm! cheapdate Jan 2016 #145

Actually Krugman has said the exact opposite ypsfonos Jan 2016 #148

Over the years I've felt that Krugman was making a positive contribution to ladjf Jan 2016 #151

Krugman- Sanders health plan looks a little bit like a standard Republican tax-cut plan Gothmog Jan 2016 #157

Um, That would be no. blackspade Jan 2016 #160

Boom...there it is! workinclasszero Jan 2016 #162

The responses to this article validate Krugman's point. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #165

Well...write an inflammatory article... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #173

Not surprising, Krugman is a Keynesian Capitalist, not a Socialist. Odin2005 Jan 2016 #166

Nailed it... SidDithers Jan 2016 #170

It's nice to see him list himself with all the other neoliberal establishment shills. mhatrw Jan 2016 #174

Don't you think these are the exact same people on both the right applegrove Jan 2016 #175

He shoots, he scores! Bonobo Jan 2016 #178

Krugman hasn't nailed anything since when he previously advocated for Single Payer/Medicare for All EndElectoral Jan 2016 #179

Sorry Krugman, you are now officially on my shit list BigBearJohn Jan 2016 #182

Pretty disingenuous. Here are the most upvoted comments for Krugman's "Weakened at Bernie's" post: Chathamization Jan 2016 #184

Umm, you know that NYT comments are moderated right? DanTex Jan 2016 #188

They don't delete hostile comments. Here are some examples of what gets through. Chathamization Jan 2016 #191

LOL. So, as you said, they delete ad hominem attacks. Thank you. DanTex Jan 2016 #193

I guess you didn't read my original post. "Here are the most upvoted comments." So you admit that Chathamization Jan 2016 #194

Oh, I read it. You cherry-picked a few of the comments to try to paint Krugman as a liar. DanTex Jan 2016 #195

I posted the top three comments, just as I stated. To call that cherry-picking indicates that you Chathamization Jan 2016 #202

Obvious cherry-picking. You're trying to pretend that the three most upvoted comments DanTex Jan 2016 #203

Rethink this, Dr. Krugman! CTyankee Jan 2016 #189

Hillary Lackey posts Hillary Lackey op-ed Iggy Knorr Jan 2016 #190

I'm impressed this has 66 recs. Krugman nailed it, as usual. eom tarheelsunc Jan 2016 #192

I'm surprised by that, actually. DanTex Jan 2016 #198

The social media shit show on full display all over the net Sheepshank Jan 2016 #196

" it’s not the kind of brave truth-telling the Sanders campaign pitch might have led you to expect" riversedge Jan 2016 #197

Poor kids.... fredamae Jan 2016 #201

Bernie's fan are turning me off on his candidacy. It's too bad, but that's the case. nt intheozone Jan 2016 #205

I doubt that you're the only one who feels that way. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #207

Bernie Sanders's fiction-filled campaign Gothmog Jan 2016 #208

Kick. They certainly have decidedly undemocratic R B Garr Jan 2016 #209

K&R betsuni Jan 2016 #210

So many good Democrats kicked under the Sanders bus. Sad. riversedge Jan 2016 #211