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Response to darkangel218 (Original post)

Sun Jan 24, 2016, 03:39 AM

83. As a Bernie Sanders supporter, your logic eludes me.

 

You say you will never vote for Clinton in a general election. By doing that you would put a Republican in the White House. Perhaps even a fascist.

I wish Clinton and Sanders supporters would have more respect for one another on a forum like this. Perhaps that is simply not possible, politics being what it is. I wish most Democrats could rise above it though. I wish most people who believed in science, a higher minimum wage, more equal access to education, and a better health care system could rise above it.

It boils down to this, mostly:

Sanders supporters believe the best candidate is one who can lead a revolution, inspiring millions of people to rise up and VOTE. It is an idealistic belief, but Clinton supporters....do not confuse idealism with naivety. The Sanders campaign is not about plans. There are plans aplenty, everywhere. It's about big ideas. The details can only come with the actual work of government, but now, here and now, building the movement, it's the big ideas that matter. Thus the Sanders ad "America" with no words but a song and the American people. Clinton supporter may say such an approach lacks substance, but do not confuse substance with detailed policy proposals. Sanders knows single payer will not pass anytime soon. Do you really think as president he would not work for what is possible? Do you really think anyone but the American people can make the what is now impossible someday possible? We have to start somewhere, and for Sanders it starts not with compromise (that can wait) but with getting enough people to rise up and send a message to the corporate/governmental complex that cannot be ignored. That's when WE THE PEOPLE get the upper hand in the negotiation. The power in America has always been with the people, but they have to believe they still have it. They do.

I understand that Clinton is more experienced on the world stage, and has more detailed plans at this point. I get why many think Sanders is unelectable. The stakes are very high. But both Sanders and Clinton supporters believe the stakes are very high. Both are worried, very worried, about the future of America. In the end though, we both believe the same things (the important things, anyway)...we just differ on how and how fast we believe we can get there.

Clinton supporters are not sell-outs, and Sanders supporters are not naive revolutionaries leading the Democratic Party to the edge of the abyss. Both have something to say, and both have a reasonable point of view. The disagreement is what primaries are supposed to be about.

But can we try and be just a little less nasty towards each other than, oh I don't know, the Donald is to everyone he doesn't agree with? Can't we try and rise up above the kind of political dialogue that is going on all over the media, maybe just an its-bitsy bit?

We call ourselves "progressives." Seems to me we can make a lot more progress by respecting each other.

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