2016 Postmortem

Fantastic Anarchist

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73. Which are still cheaper overall.

Reply to hill2016 (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:34 PM

Jan 2016

Especially with the risk pool spread out among a healthier population.

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The real reason why we don't have single payer is because nobody wants to pay for it [View all] hill2016 Jan 2016 OP

Wrong, its because big insurance and big pharma would lose money so they bought the removal of litlbilly Jan 2016 #1

fortunately hill2016 Jan 2016 #4

she's our champion! juxtaposed Jan 2016 #7

And you people call us Republican Right wingers? Bernie said it last night at the debate litlbilly Jan 2016 #11

Why doesn't Arkansas have Universal Health care then? Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #51

yep, they have clean water now Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #53

Flint is in a different state and it's a different issue. n/t whathehell Jan 2016 #77

take a guess hill2016 Jan 2016 #9

costs enid602 Jan 2016 #62

Drugs make up 10% of expenditures and save tons of money in hospitalization, doctor visits, Hoyt Jan 2016 #68

Hillary, is that you? vt_native Jan 2016 #2

And, funny thing: Shumlin has already endorsed, yup: Hillary Rodham Clinton. yea, I know, it is so Karma13612 Jan 2016 #6

Thank you for saying what needed to be said! Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #23

Does Bernie's bill include LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #31

I know that HR 676 does, but that came out of the House under Kucinich Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #41

There's money in the ACA to cover more through expanded LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #48

and Kentucky? Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #54

The money is there in the ACA for Kentucky as well. LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #67

Better to lose your job than your life. n/t TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #56

Should the people displaced by Bernie's bill get unemployment benefits, LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #66

First, I know Bernie's proposal is very similar to HR 676. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #74

Should people die because they can't afford health care? TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #78

How long should the displaced insurance workers LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #80

I'm sure we can transition. n/t TIME TO PANIC Jan 2016 #82

You are begging the question. LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #83

We pay MORE for LESS of it than any industrial nation. Wilms Jan 2016 #3

The very definition of 'exceptionalism', dontchaknow! eom Karma13612 Jan 2016 #8

The argument is so stupid it makes me sick... Human101948 Jan 2016 #79

cut it out juxtaposed Jan 2016 #5

Do people like paying thousands of dollars to private insurance companies The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #10

+1000 Punkingal Jan 2016 #12

yeah hill2016 Jan 2016 #17

Then where is all this money coming from? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #20

um... hill2016 Jan 2016 #21

It's too fucking much. And it doesn't include the stock options and bonuses The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #24

Keep this link and spread the word: Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #28

+10,000 nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #29

according to your link hill2016 Jan 2016 #35

Still too fucking much. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #39

10 million is heaven sent salvation for 100 families. Half-Century Man Jan 2016 #63

Under single-payer ... Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #27

most of your costs are actually hill2016 Jan 2016 #32

How is Medicare managing with a less than 2% overhead? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #40

well hill2016 Jan 2016 #42

You made my point for me. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #46

sure you can save on that hill2016 Jan 2016 #47

Which are still cheaper overall. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #73

nope dsc Jan 2016 #43

No, Medicare is 1.3% Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #44

Now who is naive? Live and Learn Jan 2016 #30

He does not pay 18K a year yeoman6987 Jan 2016 #57

no. we already pay more for health care than single payer would cost. Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #13

The only one I have heard say they don't want to pay for it is you. Live and Learn Jan 2016 #14

answer my three questions please hill2016 Jan 2016 #18

Do they complain about social security? shawn703 Jan 2016 #19

I'm getting Social Security and Medicare and I am sure as hell not complaining. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #25

Why don't you post your sources first since your questions are suspect? Live and Learn Jan 2016 #26

You have listed three groups of people. Half-Century Man Jan 2016 #65

Yep...that's why were the only civilized nation without it. Just can't figure it out Can't be done libdem4life Jan 2016 #15

1/2 of the country has insurance through their employer, and many are afraid of change Orangepeel Jan 2016 #16

With single-payer insurance, employers wouldn't have to pay for The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2016 #22

That money (at least most of it) will still go to pay for their heathcare Orangepeel Jan 2016 #49

Thank you Newt Gringrich Armstead Jan 2016 #33

Right, No more taxes. elleng Jan 2016 #34

I'm pointing out the reality of the country we live in hill2016 Jan 2016 #37

You're right, I agree with you, elleng Jan 2016 #50

So you oppose Obamacare, which involves expanded Medicaid, which low income people get for free? Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #71

It pains me to agree with you, but I do. MH1 Jan 2016 #36

Bernie's pragmatism means better health care for less money. immoderate Jan 2016 #59

Those morons are camped out in a State with expanded Medicaid, automatic voter registration, the Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #70

I'm Not Tech Savvy Enough To Post Links, But ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #38

Single Payer is Less Expensive than What We Have Now srobert Jan 2016 #45

wrong it is Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #52

Thank Gaia for my IL... n/t chervilant Jan 2016 #55

Why we don't have single payer? Because private insurance can charge $15K/ yr leveymg Jan 2016 #58

The reason we don't have War, … is because nobody wants to pay for it Agony Jan 2016 #60

I would gladly pay my share for it bigwillq Jan 2016 #61

to follow on your lead ... GeorgeGist Jan 2016 #64

And the reason we have wars is because some always see a way to pay for that, no matter how costly Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #69

Or a middle man wants to be paid for it and has mmonk Jan 2016 #72

You're right. The American people would rather continue to be ripped off by the insurance companies Skwmom Jan 2016 #75

The real reason why we don't have single payer is because guillaumeb Jan 2016 #76

Lol, I love this, all of a sudden the Democrats hate single payer! Nt Logical Jan 2016 #81

Brought to you by Hillary, Inc. Bread and Circus Jan 2016 #84

Baloney. OrwellwasRight Jan 2016 #85

It would save average Americans money but the Insurance Companies own members of Congress. Skwmom Jan 2016 #86