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qazplm135

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18. yes INSIDE

Fri Aug 7, 2020, 07:29 PM

Aug 2020

because they specifically SET IT UP THAT WAY SO THAT THEY COULD MEASURE the time.

It has NOTHING to do with quantum tunneling. They would have quantum tunneled with or without the precession.

Yes, they want to SEE if it takes LONGER to go through thicker barriers. That does NOT mean they actually physically passed through the barriers. it takes TIME to move any distance, if you increase the distance, it will take more time.

The VERY SAME ARTICLE tells you we dont. know. how. quantum. tunneling. works.

But you've ignored that to fixate on your belief that it literally tunnels through solid matter.

I'm done. Your belief isn't based on explicit statements, it's based on a complete misunderstanding of what those statements are and are not saying.

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Physicists watch quantum particles tunnel through solid barriers. Here's what they found. [View all] Judi Lynn Aug 2020 OP

Possibly it's evaporating and reorganizing on the other side judesedit Aug 2020 #1

there's a range of probabilities qazplm135 Aug 2020 #4

If they just appear on the other side, how would you explain the precession? Jim__ Aug 2020 #7

because the magnetic field is only inside the barrier qazplm135 Aug 2020 #8

Doesn't the precession imply that they're actually passing through the barrier? Jim__ Aug 2020 #9

your own link qazplm135 Aug 2020 #10

From my link: "When particles are inside the barrier, they precess. Outside it, they don't." Jim__ Aug 2020 #11

no it doesn't qazplm135 Aug 2020 #13

OK. I can't argue about quantum theory. But the article does talk about the velocity of the ... Jim__ Aug 2020 #15

I don't know what else to tell you qazplm135 Aug 2020 #16

My belief is based on explicit statements in the article. Jim__ Aug 2020 #17

yes INSIDE qazplm135 Aug 2020 #18

Yes, inside: "... if they can learn anything about velocity of the atoms ... Jim__ Aug 2020 #19

to also see if they can learn anything qazplm135 Aug 2020 #20

you clearly don't understand qazplm135 Aug 2020 #29

You clearly didn't read the article clearly. The barrier was NOT a mass. It was magnetic. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #48

The reason why you can't burrow through a wall qazplm135 Aug 2020 #49

You claimed it was because it had mass. It does not have mass. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #50

I was talking about quantum tunneling in general qazplm135 Aug 2020 #51

You wrote it was impossible to be in the barrier because of MASS. Further, photons aren't affected Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #52

Sigh qazplm135 Aug 2020 #53

Quantum gravity not been proven, so, no, mass does not affect transmission of photons through mass. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #54

Einstein?? qazplm135 Aug 2020 #55

So now you are against people making "general statements" the way you made general statements. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #56

lol qazplm135 Aug 2020 #58

From what I've read about quantum physics, there is no solid mass judesedit Aug 2020 #22

for the purpose of this qazplm135 Aug 2020 #28

1) Rubidium atoms are not "subatomic", 2) Precession only occurs inside the barrier Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2020 #47

they "precess" inside the barrier qazplm135 Aug 2020 #57

by the way, another experiment "Definitively" found it was near instantaneous qazplm135 Aug 2020 #59

I probably sound stupid, but you mean kind of like a drill? judesedit Aug 2020 #21

I was referring to a paragraph in the article. Jim__ Aug 2020 #24

you are fixated on the precession qazplm135 Aug 2020 #30

"When particles are inside the barrier, they precess. Outside it, they don't." Jim__ Aug 2020 #33

so what? qazplm135 Aug 2020 #34

That means they were inside the barrier. Jim__ Aug 2020 #35

No qazplm135 Aug 2020 #36

They were inside the barrier regardless? Jim__ Aug 2020 #37

Again you are obsessed with the precession qazplm135 Aug 2020 #38

No, I'm not obsessed with precession. Jim__ Aug 2020 #39

I've REPEATEDLY answered it qazplm135 Aug 2020 #40

YIKES! SkyDaddy7 Aug 2020 #45

This is where I need a sarcasm detector qazplm135 Aug 2020 #46

I would note that saying something qazplm135 Aug 2020 #12

Cool stuff! Thanks for the link...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #2

Amazing! Thanks for sharing! Karadeniz Aug 2020 #3

Richard Feynman- "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechan TrogL Aug 2020 #5

This!! Delmette2.0 Aug 2020 #6

I used to use quantum tunneling diodes. They were incredibly fast. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #61

Particles can appear from empty space... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #14

Hence we have Hawking radiation emitted by black holes. CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #25

Yep! Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2020 #26

virtual particles qazplm135 Aug 2020 #31

Thank you for the food for thought. It really is a fascinating subject judesedit Aug 2020 #23

Interesting. According to one of the books I read (by Brian Greene? Roger Penrose?)... CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #27

Yes, it doesn't tunnel through qazplm135 Aug 2020 #32

Thanks for the reply. Perhaps I should have said "continuous." CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #42

I agree it isn't "tunneling" in the sense qazplm135 Aug 2020 #43

Made me think of this alfredo Aug 2020 #41

Spam deleted by MIR Team ricardos Aug 2020 #44

Particles with superpowers orangecrush Aug 2020 #60

Once again, thanks for or a challenging but fascinating post. nt Atticus Aug 2020 #62

Thanks for link burrowowl Aug 2020 #63