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hunter

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10. The toxic wastes of a careless high energy industrial society suck.

Reply to Eko (Reply #8)

Sun Oct 1, 2017, 01:37 PM

Oct 2017

By total volume, there's more toxic non-radioactive industrial waste, crap that has a half life of FOREVER.

Failure to acknowledge this makes one an unwitting shill of the fossil fuel industry.

Maimed or dead from radioactive waste is no different than maimed or dead by non-radioactive waste.

I don't have any religious beliefs about nuclear power or radioactive waste. Your images are very evocative of Christian images of hell.

My personal religious crusade is against automobiles. I could post pictures of people ruined in car wrecks, I could post pictures of people dying of cancers caused by particulate pollution they inhaled, of jungles opened up and destroyed by fossil fueled vehicles and chain saws... etc... etc...

...but I won't.

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A Minor Problem For Sound Science of the Effect of Offshore Windfarms on Seabirds: There Isn't Any. [View all] NNadir Sep 2017 OP

Some new stuff. Eko Sep 2017 #1

The trouble is that people see wind turbines as a symbol of progress... hunter Sep 2017 #2

I hadn't thought of it that way but you're right. NNadir Sep 2017 #3

Wow Eko Sep 2017 #4

I live in California. The hills are littered with dead Enron-era wind turbines... hunter Sep 2017 #6

What do you mean by dead turbines? Eko Oct 2017 #11

Here, too, is another picture from Nature, of the realities of the wind industry. NNadir Sep 2017 #5

Yes, this is much better. Eko Sep 2017 #7

Here you go, way awesome. Eko Sep 2017 #8

The toxic wastes of a careless high energy industrial society suck. hunter Oct 2017 #10

Yup, Eko Oct 2017 #12

How about arsenic? Arsenic has a half life of forever. hunter Oct 2017 #13

Nope. Eko Oct 2017 #14

Seriously? You think the arsenic goes away? hunter Oct 2017 #16

Well, Im sure Eko Oct 2017 #19

The same sorts of processes that decrease the bioavailability of toxins like arsenic and lead... hunter Oct 2017 #20

This was your statement. Eko Oct 2017 #23

I would ask you to take a second Eko Oct 2017 #15

I'm some kind of quixotic Luddite and evolutionary biologist. hunter Oct 2017 #17

Yes you have said that many times. Eko Oct 2017 #18

Except they don't reduce the use of gas. hunter Oct 2017 #21

Gas is profitable without wind. Eko Oct 2017 #22

You'd be okay with more gas. I get it. hunter Oct 2017 #24

Wow. Eko Oct 2017 #25

So what? Eko Oct 2017 #26

Your enthusiasm for solar and wind augmented gas power plants is clear. hunter Oct 2017 #27

Yes, because somewhere I am sure Eko Oct 2017 #28

I'd happily see Ivanpah removed, and the landscape restored to the best of human ability. hunter Oct 2017 #29

Natural gas is successful without solar and wind. Eko Oct 2017 #30

We are not "buying time." hunter Oct 2017 #31

Of course we are. Eko Oct 2017 #32

Going back to the original argument... hunter Oct 2017 #33

Of course you are because it's not about global warming Eko Oct 2017 #34

Welcome to the twenty first century. It's a messy place... hunter Oct 2017 #35

Not afraid. Eko Oct 2017 #36

It would be silly to be afraid. hunter Oct 2017 #37

And I am not a silly person. Eko Oct 2017 #38

Im not even going to post the pictures from this. Eko Sep 2017 #9