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8. it sort of begs the question, "what is Reality?"...I think it's a compelling idea
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 01:52 PM
Feb 2017

especially as stated by Nick Bostrom, where it's posed as a trilemma...the whole thing rests on the assumption that a "post-human" civilization would have tremendous computing power and be able to create a simulated environment wherein the occupants would experience it as a fully "real" world, and also that artificially created, simulated entities would possess consciousness/sentience. Given those assumptions, logically, you'd have to accept that at least one of the following statements is true:

1."The fraction of human-level civilizations that reach a posthuman stage (that is, one capable of running high-fidelity ancestor simulations) is very close to zero", or
2."The fraction of posthuman civilizations that are interested in running ancestor-simulations is very close to zero", or
3."The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are living in a simulation is very close to one"

I suppose it also begs the question as to "what is consciousness?"

Here's the Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis

Our current "reality" certainly looks like somebody with a seriously cruel streak has decided they're tired of their Sims and are just going to torture us all and blow up the world. My guess: space alien invasion and/or massive natural disasters are next up. Hope it's all very entertaining for some fucker somewhere....

can't see the video right now but the title is a very old philosophy question unblock Feb 2017 #1
Complexity is apparently in the eye of the sagesnow Feb 2017 #19
I don't think it means a conscious observer. Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2017 #22
So, The Matrix was a documentary? Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #2
There is a high probablity that is was. sagesnow Feb 2017 #6
I thought it was Krishna sleeping... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #7
Spaghetti Monster. longship Feb 2017 #10
Where's the evidence? longship Feb 2017 #13
Susskind, Degrasso and other sagesnow Feb 2017 #3
Have the string conjecturists all gone stark raving mad? longship Feb 2017 #12
I think it is an ill-conceived idea rock Feb 2017 #4
I attended a panel discussion on this topic PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2017 #5
2 responses to that argument... sagesnow Feb 2017 #11
The first response is a God hypothesis. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2017 #17
it sort of begs the question, "what is Reality?"...I think it's a compelling idea anarch Feb 2017 #8
Very probably utter rubbish! longship Feb 2017 #9
Whether true or not, it is an ontological truism to say it couldn't matter less. (n/t) FreepFryer Feb 2017 #14
Well then I think there's a critical error in the Trump-string. Snarkoleptic Feb 2017 #15
You mean are we dreaming the universe or is it dreaming us? Warpy Feb 2017 #16
First, a check on one of Edeline D'Souza's claims. Jim__ Feb 2017 #18
Some thoughts on the topic from Scientific American Danascot Feb 2017 #20
I found that cringe worthy. I couldn't watch much of it. hunter Feb 2017 #21
I read littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #23
Thanks for all the replies. sagesnow Mar 2017 #24
There are videos r/t Talbot's hypothesis. The book was interesting. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #25
Funny how no one ever posited that life might be a high tech simulation stopbush Mar 2017 #26
Does it matter? Unless one can directly affect the simulation, it doesn't make a bit of difference. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #27
What does this conjecture even mean? struggle4progress Mar 2017 #28
I think that the theory ... Tortmaster Mar 2017 #29
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