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33. Knowledge of what?

Sat Sep 7, 2013, 01:48 PM

Sep 2013

Do you disagree with this statement?

And, further, the vast majority of our perfectly good knowledge beliefs are not scientific in character. Our knowledge of mathematical truths is even more certain than scientific beliefs and it is not empirically derived. We also have knowledge of an enormous amount of “unscientific” knowledge that comes through our senses, our memories, and ordinary every day inferences that have nothing to do whatsoever with rigorous scientific methodology.

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Atheist Religiphobia #1: Fear of Believing Anything At All About Gods [View all] rug Sep 2013 OP

O, geez... chervilant Sep 2013 #1

He's talking about the basis for nonbelief and the reliance on science for knowledge. rug Sep 2013 #2

What about my post chervilant Sep 2013 #3

It wasn't responsive. rug Sep 2013 #5

Is there a better source than science to rely on for knowledge? cleanhippie Sep 2013 #32

Knowledge of what? rug Sep 2013 #33

I do, for it conflates objective knowledge with subjective knowledge. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #35

Um, math IS a science. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #52

Augustine on mathematicians: dimbear Sep 2013 #54

Yes, I completely disagree intaglio Sep 2013 #62

The Greeks and Romans had it right. tecelote Sep 2013 #4

I'll be honest and admit I found the linked article unreadable, and so didn't finish it . . . MrModerate Sep 2013 #6

Completely agree edhopper Sep 2013 #7

Do you know who Daniel Fincke is? rug Sep 2013 #17

No edhopper Sep 2013 #22

Google him. You'll find reason to believe he's met an atheist. rug Sep 2013 #23

You missunderstand what I said edhopper Sep 2013 #39

I know who he is! xfundy Sep 2013 #46

And not one concrete example in the many pages skepticscott Sep 2013 #8

It reminded me of NYTimes edhopper Sep 2013 #9

Almost as vacant as skepticscott Sep 2013 #10

To post, or not to post. edhopper Sep 2013 #11

Feel free to post what you find interesting. rug Sep 2013 #19

I do edhopper Sep 2013 #21

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #18

I see nothing has changed skepticscott Sep 2013 #25

Well. I'd say #10 is a good example of passive-aggressive posturing . . . . er posting. rug Sep 2013 #28

Feel free to engage on the facts skepticscott Sep 2013 #29

Always. BTW #10 is vacant of facts. rug Sep 2013 #31

It asserts the fact that skepticscott Sep 2013 #36

Guess everyone who bet on "evade" skepticscott Sep 2013 #56

I agree. I struggled to even skim the article. cbayer Sep 2013 #13

I agree with your opinion of the newly created term 'agnostic atheist'. Leontius Sep 2013 #14

Absolutely. enlightenment Sep 2013 #30

Religophobia - hits it right on the head for a small subset. cbayer Sep 2013 #12

In the broadest use of the word, yes edhopper Sep 2013 #15

And I refuse to have a nonsensical debate about whether lack of belief is a belief or not. cbayer Sep 2013 #16

I think atheist edhopper Sep 2013 #20

Have you ever heard anyone around here say that? cbayer Sep 2013 #24

It has been discussed here, edhopper Sep 2013 #37

You are right. There have definitely been articles about it. cbayer Sep 2013 #38

Very tricky. edhopper Sep 2013 #40

Fine, then point them out to us skepticscott Sep 2013 #47

I guess it was too much to ask skepticscott Sep 2013 #57

Sure, everyone believes in something, but this is about believing in a god. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #34

"Everyone believes in something." AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #53

Shortly after I wrote that, rug posted this article which states it really nicely, imo. cbayer Sep 2013 #58

I think that article appeals to certain people's confirmation bias. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #60

well I believe they're non-existant. . . Stargleamer Sep 2013 #26

this needs to be parsed more finely and thought about more thoroughly.... mike_c Sep 2013 #27

What's this? Burning (Straw) Man #2? longship Sep 2013 #41

I have tried three times to read through this LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #42

You are definitely not the only one. cbayer Sep 2013 #43

I somehow managed to avoid that one LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #44

Dickens I loved. cbayer Sep 2013 #45

If you liked the issues and themes in Dickens, okasha Sep 2013 #49

Thanks! cbayer Sep 2013 #50

My friends, you can conquer this phobia. Keep a brand new unopened religion in your desk drawer, dimbear Sep 2013 #48

It is Really Refreshing On the Road Sep 2013 #51

Because Paul Kurtz edhopper Sep 2013 #55

I'm not sure why you say recognizing that knowledge is uncertain weakens his ability to make a ... Jim__ Sep 2013 #59

It Weakens His Case On the Road Sep 2013 #61