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In reply to the discussion: Is there a moral law? [View all]
 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
15. In a word, no
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:01 PM
Jan 2012

Human beings are just as capable of being cruel and immoral towards each other as they are of being kind and altruistic, and that has not changed during human history. No "moral law" that is inherent in our nature has asserted itself, only social conventions (and even those are of questionable impact). Kant's statement is simply an undemonstrated declaration, and your use of it a fallacious argument from authority. Ditto for your statement about the "great theme of the Christian faith" (which seems to change almost weekly in your agenda-driven postings).

And btw, if you'd read any of the real truth about Mother Teresa, you'd never even consider using her as a poster child for the concept of inherent human goodness.

Is there a moral law? [View all] Thats my opinion Jan 2012 OP
They vary Why Syzygy Jan 2012 #1
Good and morality are projections we attached to perceived stimuli. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #2
"Moral law" tama Jan 2012 #3
I'd say No mr blur Jan 2012 #4
There is a natural moral law but it only applies to the in-group. Jim__ Jan 2012 #5
I think the group can be extended worldwide, but not with the full empathy muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #8
Not really FarCenter Jan 2012 #6
In the strictest and most limited sense, yes. rrneck Jan 2012 #7
you and Tama make the same solid point. Thats my opinion Jan 2012 #9
A deontological absolute one? No. A teleology that gives us a species survival edge? Surely. dmallind Jan 2012 #10
"How do we know this morality is a function of social conditioning not innate humanity?" Boojatta Jan 2012 #11
I have no clue if the bee would dance or not dmallind Jan 2012 #12
Mythic histories tama Jan 2012 #13
ONLY mythic histories? dmallind Jan 2012 #24
No tama Jan 2012 #27
Maybe it wasn't a good idea for me to introduce the bee dance subtopic. Boojatta Jan 2012 #14
In a word, no skepticscott Jan 2012 #15
Humans are a mixed bag. Thats my opinion Jan 2012 #16
Yes, they are, which is exactly the point skepticscott Jan 2012 #17
At least part of the good life has to do with the shadow it casts. Thats my opinion Jan 2012 #18
Most of the writing about Mother Teresa skepticscott Jan 2012 #22
Damn, Scott, it's like he completely ignored everything you just posted. cleanhippie Jan 2012 #19
Call me shocked and astonished skepticscott Jan 2012 #23
No. Social conditioning tells us what is moral and right. darkstar3 Jan 2012 #20
The FGM point is a good one. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #21
I don't know about a 'moral law' LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #25
Why is it moral to help others Thats my opinion Jan 2012 #26
Except that most life skepticscott Jan 2012 #28
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