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In reply to the discussion: Only 14, Bangladeshi girl charged with adultery was lashed to death [View all]Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)24. The point is that our two versions of the abrahamic religions are not all that different from
the islamic version. And your claim that they are is flawed.
Adultery is but one aspect. Until the mid 18th century grotesque cruelty was the norm for punishment for all crimes, religious crimes were numerous and punished routinely by appallingly cruel executions. We've gotten better in the west, at least as far as grotesque cruelty and religious crimes are concerned, but we all came from more or less the same place, and not that long ago.
England retained capital punishment for sodomy until 1861, Massachusetts retained its colonial era death penalty for sodomy until 1822. South Carolina, 1878.
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Only 14, Bangladeshi girl charged with adultery was lashed to death [View all]
skepticscott
Feb 2013
OP
Yeah we just executed them until 2005, and only then by a 5-4 decision did we stop.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2013
#6
Massive differences to be sure, but feel free to keep up the strawman
ProgressiveProfessor
Feb 2013
#11
I guess your reading of these texts would make you a good rightwing fundamentalist,
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#19
The point is that our two versions of the abrahamic religions are not all that different from
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2013
#24
I never made any claim about "the abrahamic religions" nor about any supposed "islamic version"
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#40
the article said it was a Mosque, not a church, and Xings have beaten children to death.. >Link
rabid_byter
Feb 2013
#78
There are certainly a variety of issues here. One issue is extrajudicial punishment, which
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#7
Two years after, we can probably do more here than simply repost the story
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#14
Very few people on DU would think that religiously-motivated violence is acceptable
LeftishBrit
Mar 2013
#98
Perhaps you meant to reply to skepticscott, who actually used the word "complex,"
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#18
Your tireless efforts to absolve religious beliefs of any possible role in this (and other)
trotsky
Feb 2013
#25
While sticking one's head in the sand to make one feel better about the reality of the situation
cleanhippie
Feb 2013
#29
I've provided fifteen or twenty links to news stories relevant to the case, enabling anyone
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#36
I've provided fifteen or twenty links to news stories relevant to the case, together with
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#41
Gender Justice: Is Bangladesh Ignoring ‘Fatwa’ Violence Against Women?
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#21
What we know so far: these events occurred two years ago, in a tiny Bangladeshi village without
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#22
I'm going to respond without using the vicious personal attacks that you are engaging in.
trotsky
Feb 2013
#58
If you can build a coherent case for your view, based on such facts, as might be actually available
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#48
One ought to be able to sort out conflicting claims: for example, the report you are citing asserts
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#62
And yet not one of those discrepancies does a thing to dispel the central issue being discussed:
trotsky
Feb 2013
#66
... Hena Akhter (also known as Hena Begum), died six days after being lashed ... A village court
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#34
Perhaps you could make your best case that this was actually religiously motivated,
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#44
A number of accounts indicate that the venue was some sort of extrajudical "village court"
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#47
I provided nearly two dozen links in a careful effort to determine what we know.
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#55
I say: facts first, analysis second. You would have it the other way around, it seems
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#63
They started beating on the girl before they had organized their cover story
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#89
The "fantasy" in my #47 can be supported by links, with only minimal interpolation:
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#64
Can a person be motivated by religious beliefs without holding a religious position?
trotsky
Feb 2013
#69
The usual Islamic use of "fatwa" refers to an opinion by someone trained in their canon law,
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#70
Let us now examine your quote: "When .. a so called religious leader .. gives an edict .. most
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#85
Until you answer my questions, I don't really care how you choose to defend the murderers.
trotsky
Feb 2013
#86
And in my experience, you still wouldn't care if I answered your silly questions
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#87
Religiously, Bangladesh is about 90% Muslim and about 9% Hindu. It has universal suffrage. In 2008,
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#60
Evidently, the Muslims still running the country like in the middle ages
demosincebirth
Feb 2013
#79
Personally, I'd be quite pleased if we could get 3/4 of the seats in the US Congress filled
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#80
Reallly? I guess you haven't read the new in the last few years. If calling "bigoty,
demosincebirth
Feb 2013
#83
Since you reach sweeping conclusions about the 140+ million Muslims in Bangladesh,
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#84
Because I don't reach conclusions about 140+ million folk from the actions of 14 or so?
struggle4progress
Feb 2013
#92
Bangladesh is the most densely inhabited country in the world with a population over half
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#95
Naturally, we should take seriously whatever AI says about human rights issues, including rates
struggle4progress
Mar 2013
#97