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In reply to the discussion: The best choice for pope? A nun. [View all]cbayer
(146,218 posts)9. Well, I disagree with you pretty completely there.
It's not going away and the only way to change it is from within.
Their liberal presence does matter. As he points out, it's almost as if there are two RCC's - the one run by men and the one run by women.
His point, which I agree with, is that the one run by women exemplifies what they should be about, while the one run by men has become corrupted beyond recognition.
I don't think anyone should be told that they should just leave an organization that has both good and bad, particularly if they are working hard for the side of the good.
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I heard an interesting analysis yesterday that noted what a profound change it is that
cbayer
Feb 2013
#13
Care to name some organizations that have been changed from the inside that became better??
Angry Dragon
Feb 2013
#16
You made the statement that they needed to stay so they could change it from the inside
Angry Dragon
Feb 2013
#18
Well, they had policies about women and GLBT that have been changed, to start with.
cbayer
Feb 2013
#19
From what I have read about the Church they have for the most part been in front of the curve
Angry Dragon
Feb 2013
#20
Well, I guess we can split hairs on the internal structure and the mechanism/routes used
cbayer
Feb 2013
#41
Obviously, I can't say what current practices are, however, that the pope be male...
Moonwalk
Feb 2013
#31
Doesn't matter to me, I'm not belonging to any organization that doesn't treat women as equals now
ButterflyBlood
Feb 2013
#37
Exactly. If you take leaving off the table, you have no way to force change.
ButterflyBlood
Feb 2013
#49