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TreasonousBastard

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14. A lot of us don't buy the hell thing. Christianity had...
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 01:41 AM
Dec 2012

most of its roots in Judaism, which doesn't accept Hell as a place, rather it's a state of being ignored by God, or some such thing. "Modern" notions of hell as a place of punishment seem to have come about during medieval times and then codified by Dante in his hallucination.

As to other strange beliefs in Christianity, or any other religion, the concept of mystery is discounted by many who consider themselves rational thinkers. There is no proof either way of any God's existence, so one is perfectly free to believe in one. If one does believe, the concept of god pretty much by definition means that god is inscrutable to us. Just as our dogs don't know all of what what we're doing when we drive a car, it's enough for them that a car trip often enough fun-- unless it's to the vet. Our dogs also are quite capable of learning to do things that please us and and have some understanding of mutual love between us and our pets. But they can't do algebra or build a house.

If we believe in a God, it's a God we don't fully understand, or what would be the point of a God who is as simple as us? God could even simply be a being of the fourth of fifth dimension that we are incapable of actually seeing, much less understanding.

Few of us would consciously consider ourselves God's pets, but that might be the most rational way to look at the relationship between ourselves and God.

(If there is one)



Well I believe in Jesus and the general dogmas of Christianity, but i do not believe that the bible hrmjustin Dec 2012 #1
Why would God not want me to go to heaven? beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #2
A truly evil soul like a serial killer with no remorse. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #4
Okay. beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #7
LOL I get that sometimes. Faith is hard to explain. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #8
No, it's probably me. beam me up scottie Dec 2012 #11
Ok. Not everyone has faith. It is a hard thing to get. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #13
Respectfully, I think that not having faith is harder. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #15
Well I can tell you for me it is not easy to believe. I constantly pray for faith. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #16
If for no other reason than to learn about how the brain actually works cleanhippie Dec 2012 #17
I will look it up. Thanks my friend. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #18
Your welcome. Enjoy. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #19
serial killers get to heaven if they give themselves to jesus in time lolol nt msongs Dec 2012 #9
Ok unrepentant serial killers. But in the end i mean people who have evil souls that are unrepentant hrmjustin Dec 2012 #10
Aren't sociopaths born that way? ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #28
I can no answer that, but I would say that if I am right God would have a way of knowing all this. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #29
That's fair. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #31
If you don't read the bible literally... trotsky Dec 2012 #21
Do you know what the logical fallacy of "equivocation" is? It is a change of the meaning of a word struggle4progress Dec 2012 #3
Yeah like what happens with the word "faith" in this group all the time. n/t trotsky Dec 2012 #22
But every Church has its own doctrine and its own interpretation of holy word. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #5
Many Bishops of the early church did not want it included in the canon of the bible. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #12
I think almost all christians (fundies included) read at least parts of the Bible symbolically fishwax Dec 2012 #6
A lot of us don't buy the hell thing. Christianity had... TreasonousBastard Dec 2012 #14
BTW, dogs may not be able to do algebra, but they can co calculus! Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #27
It takes a high tolerance for cognitive dissonance. trotsky Dec 2012 #20
I think you're conflating different things... CJCRANE Dec 2012 #23
Your experience with the church must be incredibly limited and/or narrow. cbayer Dec 2012 #24
I am interested and admittedly my experience is limited. white_wolf Dec 2012 #26
You may want to check out a Universalist/Unitarian Church if there is one in your area. cbayer Dec 2012 #30
I'll check and see if there is one in my area. Thanks. white_wolf Dec 2012 #32
It is always interesting when someone who is not only outside a tradition but despises it Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #25
Kinda like you do with atheism? n/t trotsky Dec 2012 #34
Problem, only 2 things inform the dogma of Christianity intaglio Dec 2012 #33
well i`m a very liberal person that is a believer in christ`s teachings madrchsod Dec 2012 #35
Generally speaking, all Christians pick and choose out of the Bible and their chosen... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #36
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