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iemitsu

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66. Sure, people don't fight unless they feel threatened.
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 07:40 PM
Dec 2012

The push-back is the measure of the success that women have made in the quest for equality.
It is also partly the measure of our economic strife. In good times we are generous toward others but in bad times everyone is a threat. Those who have traditionally been marginalized in the economy are the first targets when things get tight. The three groups you identify, and their issues, are certainly part of the mix too.
Times are changing and those who embrace change will come out ahead.

Because we have spooky special powers. pegasis Dec 2012 #1
welcome to du, and you are correct. niyad Dec 2012 #3
Welcome to DU and to the religion group, pegasis. cbayer Dec 2012 #8
Ha! So awesome! nt ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #19
You are asking the wrong question. Big Blue Marble Dec 2012 #2
Good Point /eom dballance Dec 2012 #6
It's not just religions. It's societies and cultures despite religions as well. cbayer Dec 2012 #7
Because we have the control over a number of things that they need or want. Squinch Dec 2012 #28
men are afraid of women because of their iemitsu Dec 2012 #32
I agree that this is the bottom line to some extent. cbayer Dec 2012 #34
Yep, its about reproduction and iemitsu Dec 2012 #36
I believe that there are many like you, but I also cbayer Dec 2012 #37
I see the battle intensifying too. iemitsu Dec 2012 #44
I think the battle is intensifying precisely BECAUSE there has been progress. The progress Squinch Dec 2012 #65
Sure, people don't fight unless they feel threatened. iemitsu Dec 2012 #66
Exactly... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #63
It's sex that most religions fear rocktivity Dec 2012 #4
I can't agree with that. Since it is the goal of some religions to increase their numbers, cbayer Dec 2012 #5
Yes, some religions NEED their followers having babies in order to increase their numbers rocktivity Dec 2012 #9
Its not so much sex that religions want to control iemitsu Dec 2012 #39
That may be the goal of some religions, but early/Catholic Christianity at least had the goal... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #40
I think much of what you say is valid. At the very least, it is a really ineteresting. cbayer Dec 2012 #41
Evolutionary advantage in a social/religious system doesn't mean producing kids, it means... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #42
also mithraism was the religion of nobles Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #50
Good point. As I said, secret fraternity religions--including elite ones... Moonwalk Dec 2012 #73
Women upset the good old boy culture which many denominations have. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #10
Agree. It is too bad that the CoE has not followed in kind. cbayer Dec 2012 #11
The COE is going to have another vote on it by summer. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #12
Now if they can just figure out why so many women voted against it, cbayer Dec 2012 #13
Plus the head of your church is Queen Elizabeth. iemitsu Dec 2012 #43
The queen is the head of the English church only. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #46
Thank you for the clarification. iemitsu Dec 2012 #48
The Episcopal Church is governed by the house of Bishops and Deputies. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #49
Thank you for your thoughtful and informative post. iemitsu Dec 2012 #59
I was happy to give you the info. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #60
A former Presiding Bishop okasha Dec 2012 #70
:) Conservatives are so cute. iemitsu Dec 2012 #72
I'm sure their mothers love them. okasha Dec 2012 #75
Explained very well in the article. longship Dec 2012 #14
Definitely cultural and can still be seen most everywhere. cbayer Dec 2012 #15
Your post gave me a chuckle. longship Dec 2012 #16
Have you seen the "God in America" programs? cbayer Dec 2012 #17
I saw parts of the series. longship Dec 2012 #18
There are no "Bronze Age scriptures" cited. okasha Dec 2012 #23
They are metaphors, my friend. longship Dec 2012 #45
Uhm, I'm not the one who's proceeding on faith, here. okasha Dec 2012 #69
Here's some help for you. longship Dec 2012 #71
Aw, gee, thanks. okasha Dec 2012 #74
For a long time, people who valued gender equality and wished to belong to a religious group ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #20
It goes back to Yahweh's divorce from Asherah. It was apparently a bad breakup. dimbear Dec 2012 #21
She got the kids, and he's been pissed ever since. Squinch Dec 2012 #29
Men's fear of the women's ability to give birth to new life. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #22
Or freaked out that they were not in control of the ability to give birth, which is also the ability Squinch Dec 2012 #30
It's the wrong question. okasha Dec 2012 #24
If you mean, why are men so afraid of women having power, I agree. cbayer Dec 2012 #25
I'm not sure there's just one answer. okasha Dec 2012 #31
Interesting. cbayer Dec 2012 #33
At least in popular intellectual myth, okasha Dec 2012 #35
It really is hard to imagine that they didn't see the connection, but who knows. cbayer Dec 2012 #38
Less possessiveness and more actual equality, certainly. okasha Dec 2012 #68
It's not fear, it's hate. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #26
They are afraid of us because we might be witches. rainin Dec 2012 #27
Any survey of world religions points out that women have been under quota in making religions up. dimbear Dec 2012 #47
Tentatitively proposing Janet Morris, since my fave James Tiptree, Jr. has dimbear Dec 2012 #67
also why do women outnumber men in the pews? Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #51
Because religion has often provided a place of refuge and solace for people cbayer Dec 2012 #52
its a social construct meaning a stereotype Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #54
I think it has to do more with your station in life than need for security. cbayer Dec 2012 #55
i'm not sure station and security are incompatible constructs. Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #58
come to think of it Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #56
Excellent point. cbayer Dec 2012 #57
true that. another thought along that line Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #61
Sounds like you are talking about tribes and why people associate with them. cbayer Dec 2012 #62
a fair analogy i think. Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #64
power of creation is an implicit threat to the patriarchy? Deep13 Dec 2012 #53
Religion was the law of primitive (ignorant) man. Dawson Leery Dec 2012 #76
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