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In reply to the discussion: No God? ...No Problem! [View all]LARED
(11,735 posts)24. You are a funny guy sometimes
simply recycling ancient Christian bigotry toward non-believers.
That a hoot if ever there was one.
To your point I did take some liberty with the definition of Humanism (from your link) from the International Humanist and Ethical Union
Using this definition being bad for badness sake is seemingly up to the individual if it gives "meaning and shape to their own lives". I don't have to tell you ethical and or humane based arguments to define good and bad are not easily nailed down into an accepted norm.
The larger point is that goodness or badness are completely subjective matters without some orienting principles. Christians use tradition and the Bible. Atheist use I guess a consensus opinion about good and bad. If Humanism means you can be good without God, (frankly a childish definition) then humanism also means you can be bad if it floats your boat.
That a hoot if ever there was one.
To your point I did take some liberty with the definition of Humanism (from your link) from the International Humanist and Ethical Union
Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. It is not theistic, and it does not accept supernatural views of reality.
Using this definition being bad for badness sake is seemingly up to the individual if it gives "meaning and shape to their own lives". I don't have to tell you ethical and or humane based arguments to define good and bad are not easily nailed down into an accepted norm.
The larger point is that goodness or badness are completely subjective matters without some orienting principles. Christians use tradition and the Bible. Atheist use I guess a consensus opinion about good and bad. If Humanism means you can be good without God, (frankly a childish definition) then humanism also means you can be bad if it floats your boat.
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