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LARED

(11,735 posts)
24. You are a funny guy sometimes
Sun Dec 9, 2012, 06:09 PM
Dec 2012
simply recycling ancient Christian bigotry toward non-believers.

That a hoot if ever there was one.


To your point I did take some liberty with the definition of Humanism (from your link) from the International Humanist and Ethical Union

Humanism is a democratic and ethical life stance, which affirms that human beings have the right and responsibility to give meaning and shape to their own lives. It stands for the building of a more humane society through an ethic based on human and other natural values in the spirit of reason and free inquiry through human capabilities. It is not theistic, and it does not accept supernatural views of reality.


Using this definition being bad for badness sake is seemingly up to the individual if it gives "meaning and shape to their own lives". I don't have to tell you ethical and or humane based arguments to define good and bad are not easily nailed down into an accepted norm.

The larger point is that goodness or badness are completely subjective matters without some orienting principles. Christians use tradition and the Bible. Atheist use I guess a consensus opinion about good and bad. If Humanism means you can be good without God, (frankly a childish definition) then humanism also means you can be bad if it floats your boat.




No God? ...No Problem! [View all] cleanhippie Dec 2012 OP
I love how concrete this is. Snagging for my FB albums. Thanks! nt patrice Dec 2012 #1
yes! for the sake of goodness itself. Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #2
Absolutely! MsPithy Dec 2012 #3
What's "good"? rug Dec 2012 #4
What's "God"? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #5
Are you saying you can't define good until you define God? rug Dec 2012 #6
How would you reach either conclusion? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #7
The billboard presupposes no god. rug Dec 2012 #8
The presupposition of no God is an example of good. Gore1FL Dec 2012 #9
I'll define good lbrtbell Dec 2012 #31
Any act that does not subvert the intent Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #32
How about this LARED Dec 2012 #10
No thank you. Chef Eric Dec 2012 #11
Well it's a good thing edhopper Dec 2012 #12
And an equally good thing Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2012 #18
You'll need to follow edhopper Dec 2012 #19
But I was simply agreeing with you. Fortinbras Armstrong Dec 2012 #20
HB, I don't think you are logged in to the right account. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #21
Please re-read post #10 edhopper Dec 2012 #22
That's not humanism. Goblinmonger Dec 2012 #13
Well the International Humanist and Ethical Union defines humanism as LARED Dec 2012 #16
Did you get your definition of humanism from Pat Robertson? trotsky Dec 2012 #14
I got it from the same place you linked. LARED Dec 2012 #17
Bullshit. Show me where the exact words you used are. trotsky Dec 2012 #23
You are a funny guy sometimes LARED Dec 2012 #24
Thank you for admitting you made it up. trotsky Dec 2012 #25
"blatant prejudice against non-Christians"? Don't you get tired of spouting nonsense? LARED Dec 2012 #27
I'm sorry the truth hurts you so much that you have to lash out. trotsky Dec 2012 #28
Possibly the winner of ironic post of the week. LARED Dec 2012 #30
It's OK. trotsky Dec 2012 #34
'being bad for badness sake' Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #26
That is my point LARED Dec 2012 #29
So.. Kalidurga Dec 2012 #33
you said good/bad was subjective Phillip McCleod Dec 2012 #35
Did you also read the other sentence LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #36
wtf Marrah_G Dec 2012 #15
True indeed! NickP Dec 2012 #37
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