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truebrit71

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82. That is complete and utter horseshit...

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:33 PM

Nov 2012

...You'd be right if it weren't for things like The Crusades, The Inquisition...you know..minor little tiffs like that....

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Ray Giunta, Discredited Pastor, No Longer Appearing At Pentagon Prayer Breakfast [View all] cbayer Nov 2012 OP

Why in the FUCK is the Pentagon having a prayer breakfast? MotherPetrie Nov 2012 #1

Religion has a big grip on the military and always has. lalalu Nov 2012 #2

"nothing but" please cite your source for that or accept the possible fact that you are as bigoted patrice Nov 2012 #5

My source? LOL lalalu Nov 2012 #6

What you "cite" is not the sum and total of religion. You are characterizing billions of people on patrice Nov 2012 #8

Religion has been a dividing force and lalalu Nov 2012 #9

You didn't answer my question; isn't it stupid to lump the guilty in with the innocent? nt patrice Nov 2012 #13

I answered it. lalalu Nov 2012 #17

And the definition of stupid here would be anything that damages one's putative goals. nt patrice Nov 2012 #14

Fundamentalist dogma is fundamentalist dogma, whether cbayer Nov 2012 #10

Yes, rejecting the fairy tales and hypocrisy of lalalu Nov 2012 #11

Your posts are VERY formulaic. Don't your templates include enough variations. Try a thesaurus & patrice Nov 2012 #15

The facts are always formulaic. They follow a basic line of truth. lalalu Nov 2012 #16

Oh! my dear, they most certainly are NOT. Anyone who understands what science really is patrice Nov 2012 #18

They are only contextual to people trying to deny facts. lalalu Nov 2012 #20

You are only displaying what is either bigotry or ignorance. I sure hope that avatar isn't Minerva.. patrice Nov 2012 #23

My friend, the facts are that more people have been murdered under atheistic dictators, humblebum Nov 2012 #25

Not true. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #26

Absolutely true. humblebum Nov 2012 #27

Absolutely false AlbertCat Nov 2012 #50

so, you don't think Stalin and Mao are not the greatest murderers ever? kwassa Nov 2012 #57

Your numbers seem a little low. humblebum Nov 2012 #58

Your numbers seem a little low. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #73

And both had dark hair and wore funny hats. skepticscott Nov 2012 #60

My point is that atheists have killed more people than religious believers. kwassa Nov 2012 #62

And my point is that skepticscott Nov 2012 #64

His point makes much sense. Whether or not they were killed directly in the name humblebum Nov 2012 #65

Oh, no, that is a qualification you just made up. kwassa Nov 2012 #68

And the deaths don't have to be in the name of brown hair skepticscott Nov 2012 #84

Communist atheists murdered 60 million people kwassa Nov 2012 #87

And they both have killed more than red heads Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #94

Both are atheist dictators. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #67

They don't need to kill in the name of atheism. Atheism is part of the Communist belief system. kwassa Nov 2012 #69

Atheism is not a system of government. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #72

Atheism is part of a system of government, the Communist system of government. kwassa Nov 2012 #75

I am not quite sure what your point is. However, ALL members of the Communist party in the USSR humblebum Nov 2012 #70

Humblebum got to use his "League of Militant Atheists" line! Everyone take a drink! cleanhippie Nov 2012 #71

What a nice republican sponsored history lesson. lalalu Nov 2012 #28

You have provided no sources for any of the garbage you are spouting. humblebum Nov 2012 #30

it is neither blather nor BS. The fact that it makes you uncomfortable? well, that's your problem ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #35

As a matter of fact i do know about the Wil Durant writings on the Muslim Conquest of India, but humblebum Nov 2012 #63

HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! SAME OLD SONG AGAIN!!! cleanhippie Nov 2012 #32

I would suggest the same. You seem to have an aversion to the truth. If you humblebum Nov 2012 #33

Bwahahahahahaha! cleanhippie Nov 2012 #48

BTW, I seem to recall that you were finished with me and that I was put on humblebum Nov 2012 #36

What can I say? Your posts are just to funny to pass up! cleanhippie Nov 2012 #49

That is complete and utter horseshit... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #82

You don't even have a clue of what you are talking about. So, humblebum Nov 2012 #104

Your "facts" first please...expressed as a percentage of the population at the time... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #111

And so are atheist governments, so what is your point? humblebum Nov 2012 #113

The numbers that you argue show that more atheists have killed people than religious folks.. truebrit71 Nov 2012 #115

So who mentioned Hitler? nt humblebum Nov 2012 #116

Never said that. Your individual choice to reject organized religion is just that - cbayer Nov 2012 #21

History and the facts prove me right. lalalu Nov 2012 #29

On the contrary, history proves you wrong. You have a clear agenda humblebum Nov 2012 #31

LOL lalalu Nov 2012 #37

Back up your accusations or your argument is toast. nt humblebum Nov 2012 #38

I have and you just refuse to acknowledge it. lalalu Nov 2012 #39

Oh I forgot. You said so. So it has to be true. LOL humblebum Nov 2012 #41

George Carlin said it best. lalalu Nov 2012 #42

So, in other words, you have nothing to back up your blather and your entire humblebum Nov 2012 #43

You are proving me right and can't even see it. lalalu Nov 2012 #44

And neither can anyone else. You still have failed to present any historical evidence to humblebum Nov 2012 #45

I certainly have seen nothing from you to back up your allegations Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #46

LOL, you can't see because you don't want to. lalalu Nov 2012 #47

Who made the opening assertion, but failed to provide any sources, except the opinion of humblebum Nov 2012 #54

OMG....the irony!! skepticscott Nov 2012 #55

As I recall, you slithered out of our last exchange after refusing to admit that humblebum Nov 2012 #56

Slithered? No, just got weary of your evasions and lies skepticscott Nov 2012 #59

So again I'll ask you, are you again saying that you have never been a participant in a humblebum Nov 2012 #61

Oh I've seen you CLAIM all over the map skepticscott Nov 2012 #85

Thanks for finally being honest. As I said before, it doesn't matter if you humblebum Nov 2012 #97

As I said, neither me nor anyone here skepticscott Nov 2012 #119

Like I said before, it doesn't matter whether you agree or not. Trying to apply your humblebum Nov 2012 #120

Back up your accusations or your argument is toast. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #74

"You seem to assume Commies only killed religious people" never said that humblebum Nov 2012 #78

Well just considering that the world population around the fifteeth century was roughly only humblebum Nov 2012 #79

you are pulling number out of thin air AlbertCat Nov 2012 #86

Who ever said the numbers only went back one century? humblebum Nov 2012 #89

I simply stated that the greatest mass murder in all of recorded history happened in the 20th centur AlbertCat Nov 2012 #91

Yes as a matter of fact I did in post #25. humblebum Nov 2012 #92

809 million? uh, no. The source page says no such thing. kwassa Nov 2012 #88

The denseness suggests a motive other than truth. There's not much one can do with dishonesty... patrice Nov 2012 #12

LOL, dishonesty is pretending you don't support lalalu Nov 2012 #19

That is the conclusion I have also drawn from previous experience. cbayer Nov 2012 #22

Because there are lots of people who pray there and it means something to them? cbayer Nov 2012 #3

Thank you. narnian60 Nov 2012 #7

Then GO TO CHURCH... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #81

Why not? as long as no one is ordered to attend and as long as there is no religious, and/or other, patrice Nov 2012 #4

Not the point. leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #24

How does it imply that it endorses one religion over another? cbayer Nov 2012 #34

It endorses religion over non-religion. trotsky Nov 2012 #40

What exactly does that mean? atreides1 Nov 2012 #52

See here: trotsky Nov 2012 #53

Your assertion of Christian privilege might stand if there are no non-prayer breakfasts at humblebum Nov 2012 #66

as long as no one is ordered to attend AlbertCat Nov 2012 #51

Why are there prayer meetings on Govt property? truebrit71 Nov 2012 #76

No one is forced to attend or even be exposed to it. cbayer Nov 2012 #77

No. Because atheism isn't a religion, nor does it require "prayer breakfasts"... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #80

Could not disagree more. Providing space for employees to practice their religion cbayer Nov 2012 #83

"Providing space for employees to practice their religion privately" trotsky Nov 2012 #90

They should practice their religion in their churches and leave govt property to govt business.. truebrit71 Nov 2012 #100

You have made your point clear. We will have to agree to disagree and let the courts decide cbayer Nov 2012 #101

(for now) Thank goodness there are groups like the FFRF to go after this type of nonsense.. truebrit71 Nov 2012 #102

They are breaking no laws here. cbayer Nov 2012 #105

Should they have to leave to pray? Yes. That's what synagogues/mosques were designed for.. truebrit71 Nov 2012 #109

In this country, they are free to be as religious as they want anywhere they want as cbayer Nov 2012 #112

FYI, I live in the USA... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #114

It's not about catering, it's about accommodating. cbayer Nov 2012 #117

Truebrit. There has never been an absolute separation of C and S in humblebum Nov 2012 #118

If all those allegations are true Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #93

That this thread Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #95

I noticed that as well. Not a single comment about the actual subject until now. cbayer Nov 2012 #96

The "right thing" would be for the Pentagon to not have prayer breakfasts. trotsky Nov 2012 #98

Government has no business telling people when and where they cannot pray. humblebum Nov 2012 #99

fire whoever invited him Enrique Nov 2012 #103

It looks like the MRFF is on it. I think a head or two may roll. cbayer Nov 2012 #106

excellent Enrique Nov 2012 #108

Dear Gawd: Help us kill in your name. Help us maim and disfigure. Help us poison the landscape. Raster Nov 2012 #107

He didn't have to say that bongbong Nov 2012 #110