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29. Isn't that an illustration from Durbin's Origin of the Specious?

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Creation Science at its best [View all] muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 OP

"The science of antediluvian plushies" longship Nov 2012 #1

Hmmph! Nobody here seems to believe in antediluvian plushies, simply because struggle4progress Nov 2012 #82

So here's the deal: after the flood, you let all these orders morningglory Nov 2012 #2

Wait, WHAT? savebigbird Nov 2012 #9

Yes, I'd have to say that some of us DID evolve (or not evolve) from plushies...... HuskiesHowls Nov 2012 #13

At this point, this is all I can do. aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #3

Everyone knows creationists are all furries. valerief Nov 2012 #4

yick dlwickham Dec 2012 #201

These people have selective vision,hearing,memory,selective everything. Rain Mcloud Nov 2012 #5

They "selective vision ..." They also have the adrenaline rush from the hate which unites them. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #7

To paraphrase Cicero, how can they pass one another on the street without laughing out loud? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #6

She blinded me with Creation Science! n/t Bossy Monkey Nov 2012 #8

My first scientific response to the "Tree thing" was... BlueJazz Nov 2012 #10

Ya gotta love the Noah's Ark arguments. zeemike Nov 2012 #11

There's no 'weak logic' on the 'atheist side' muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #14

And you base your opinion that it is fictional on what evidence? zeemike Nov 2012 #17

Based on: mathematics, physics, biology, geology, archaeology muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #19

Wow, you really have a live one there, don't you! cleanhippie Nov 2012 #22

No need to go into detail at all zeemike Nov 2012 #24

Seriously, stop this you are just appearing more and more foolish intaglio Nov 2012 #27

So "did not happen" is not a negative? zeemike Nov 2012 #34

This kind of shit is infuriating. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2012 #41

Well if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen zeemike Nov 2012 #45

I just have to step in here and say...you have not exhibited one iota of critical thinking. Walk away Dec 2012 #202

Not one iota you say... zeemike Dec 2012 #203

Critical thinking includes a commitment to using reason in the formulation of beliefs. Walk away Dec 2012 #207

No, Hypotheses are predictive intaglio Nov 2012 #42

Well we go right back to the same old thing. zeemike Nov 2012 #43

Speaking of stupider skepticscott Nov 2012 #46

Oh that is so beautiful zeemike Nov 2012 #54

Evidence always wins skepticscott Nov 2012 #58

its not nonbelievers fault that Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #49

Well sure. zeemike Nov 2012 #53

Bad analogy Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #56

That is the point I was making. zeemike Nov 2012 #59

Except that you have NO "EVIDENCE" of that flood JKingman Nov 2012 #61

Does that apply to your hypothesis that it never happened? zeemike Nov 2012 #88

YES!!! TOTALLY, If you have NO EVIDENCE that JKingman Nov 2012 #89

Well I am glad to tell you why rational people don't take it in. zeemike Nov 2012 #90

Lets cut to the chase, shall we? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #91

Well t have no evidence myself. zeemike Nov 2012 #98

So if you have no evidence to support that hypothesis, why do you hold it to be true? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #99

I could ask you the same question zeemike Nov 2012 #102

What evidence goes unseen by the public? Produce it if it exists, zeemlike. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #104

You are proclaiming you are privy to secret evidence that we have not seen muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #109

Well there is nothing secret about it. zeemike Nov 2012 #116

Who says "Fossils don't form on lake bottoms today"? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #118

What is false about Santa, compared to your fantasy? JKingman Nov 2012 #93

Ironically Santa Clause is an example of what I am talking about. zeemike Nov 2012 #97

same rules do appy. Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #71

So different rules for claims you call extraordinary? zeemike Nov 2012 #86

you can muddy the waters (pun intended) all you want Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #95

Well at least you are now saying credible evidence zeemike Nov 2012 #96

Please give evidence that *most* myths are based in some truth muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #111

Well it is my opinion that most are. zeemike Nov 2012 #112

Narcissus Laochtine Dec 2012 #162

lack of credible evidence is not an improvement for the global flood hypothesis Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #121

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #106

Well I will take the first in my Google serch. zeemike Nov 2012 #114

And what is the consensus of the geological community on this? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #117

Well I don't know and don't give it much thought. zeemike Nov 2012 #120

"Well I don't know and don't give it much thought". Yes, that seems apparent. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #122

So if it is not a standard term is it not real? zeemike Nov 2012 #130

It seems that you are not grasping the way science works. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #131

And you are not grasping what I am saying. zeemike Nov 2012 #133

Does any of the "evidence" you have put forward pass the test of the scientific method? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #134

Well that is the difference between us I guess. zeemike Nov 2012 #138

Your continued misrepresentation and mischaracterization of everything I post shows you are playing cleanhippie Nov 2012 #140

On that subject: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #135

'Polystrate' fossils: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #119

Except that the only thing that said the flood existed is the Bible Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #84

And you keep insisting on things that are not true....literally. zeemike Nov 2012 #85

What evidence? Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #110

What evedence do you have that NO evedence exists? zeemike Nov 2012 #115

Doesn't work that way Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #123

I am not hear to argue that case zeemike Nov 2012 #124

"I am not hear (sic) to argue that case" Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #126

"Oh, and don't ask me to prove a negative." zeemike Nov 2012 #128

Ahh, I see where the disconnect is! Science has not claimed that there was not a world-wide flood! cleanhippie Nov 2012 #136

It is not my hypothesis and I have no desire to prove it. zeemike Nov 2012 #137

INFINITE FACEPALM!!!!!! cleanhippie Nov 2012 #139

Saying "there is no evidence" is not the same as proving a negative Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #143

Perhaps we need to look at the TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER on the planet? JKingman Nov 2012 #87

thats awesome Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #129

No, I am saying you have a false hypothesis intaglio Nov 2012 #62

sorry to dive in here but Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #44

The ones being dogmatic are the creationists Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #55

Well they absolutely are zeemike Nov 2012 #60

Ah, here, once again, the foundations of the discipline of .. JKingman Nov 2012 #63

So let me get this strait zeemike Nov 2012 #64

Shall we take your fuzzy logic step by step? JKingman Nov 2012 #65

Well this is why I seldom come here or bring this up. zeemike Nov 2012 #66

Well, here again, you're taking a few few facts and JKingman Nov 2012 #67

Well you don't need to tell me about the Gulf Cost zeemike Nov 2012 #70

You seem to be ignorant of geology and biology... Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 #73

I am not pretending to be a scientist. zeemike Nov 2012 #76

Basically you are saying the experts shouldn't be consulted, do you diagnose yourself... Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 #77

how long do you think it takes JKingman Nov 2012 #78

I was looking up similar evidence, that points to 1 year as well, to reach maturity.... Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 #79

Thanks I always go for the USGS, NOAA, and other US JKingman Nov 2012 #81

Yeah, I found a couple of reports on disease oysters suffer... Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 #83

This is the most fascinating post Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #156

It would help your case if you can point to someone else referring to this 'hundreds of feet thick' muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #74

As I said in an other post this was in the 70s zeemike Nov 2012 #75

Good - that gives us something to work with muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #80

Not really sure just what this is supposed to tell us regarding your world-wide flood hypothesis. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #92

Well there are two explanations of why those thick beds of shells are there. zeemike Nov 2012 #100

What is the scientific explanation? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #101

You do realize that most of these shoals form in protected areas... Humanist_Activist Nov 2012 #105

I don't get the feeling that zeemlike is impressed at all by these facts. Not even a little bit. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #107

RIGHT! He has this one fact and cannot seem to find ... JKingman Nov 2012 #113

"it is mostly based on real events. " AlbertCat Nov 2012 #144

The story is not in every culture TrogL Nov 2012 #103

No progressoid Nov 2012 #23

Well that is true for sure. zeemike Nov 2012 #25

Or would have known of the over-one-and-a-half-million species of insects, or... mr blur Nov 2012 #36

Well I reject your assertion that I am making myself look foolish zeemike Nov 2012 #38

Funny that you reject that assertion skepticscott Nov 2012 #47

Well of course I did zeemike Nov 2012 #51

This may clear some things up for you. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #125

By that definition is the Flat Earth also a theory? zeemike Nov 2012 #127

It is becoming obvious that you are just playing a game here. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #132

Why do you not read what is being said to you? intaglio Nov 2012 #141

The flat earth theory WAS accepted by a consensus at one time. zeemike Nov 2012 #142

You demonstrate absolute ignorance about the Sciences and Velikovski intaglio Nov 2012 #145

Well I wish to end this conversation. zeemike Nov 2012 #146

Translation: I just had my ass handed to me so I will bloviate for a bit then slink off in a huff. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #147

And of course the parting shot insult post. zeemike Nov 2012 #148

You should have just walked away when you had the chance. But you must be a glutton for punishment. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #149

You think you punished me with all that crap you posted? zeemike Nov 2012 #150

I think... gcomeau Nov 2012 #152

In your view you mean. zeemike Dec 2012 #159

The "official story"? gcomeau Dec 2012 #166

Go to any university and what do they teach? zeemike Dec 2012 #168

Is this some kind of elaborate practical joke? gcomeau Dec 2012 #170

I am not trolling a forum zeemike Dec 2012 #171

Could have fooled me. gcomeau Dec 2012 #172

Move Over! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #173

"someone who deliberately posts ridiculous nonsense to get a rise out of people? zeemike Dec 2012 #174

Yep. gcomeau Dec 2012 #175

No the drill is to discredit facts that counteract yours. zeemike Dec 2012 #176

In an oblique manner? gcomeau Dec 2012 #177

"Pure unadulterated nonsense" zeemike Dec 2012 #178

"Why is that"? gcomeau Dec 2012 #179

Well that is just not true...Methane locked in hydrates is enormous . zeemike Dec 2012 #180

I'm aware they're enormous. gcomeau Dec 2012 #181

Now how the hell do you know that? zeemike Dec 2012 #182

Laugh riot gcomeau Dec 2012 #183

And your theory is that such things are impossible . zeemike Dec 2012 #184

The above could not happen muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #185

Well great then, we have a definitive answer. zeemike Dec 2012 #188

POE'S LAW! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #190

My intent is to learn zeemike Dec 2012 #196

If your intent was to learn, you would have stopped plastering nonsense after nonsense... cleanhippie Dec 2012 #200

It is not nonsense and it is nonsense to say it is. zeemike Dec 2012 #204

Nonsense. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #206

The tidal force from an object is inversely proportional to the cube of distance muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #192

So then how close would the encounter have to be to cause the crust zeemike Dec 2012 #195

SUCH THINGS LEAVE FREAKING EVIDENCE gcomeau Dec 2012 #186

Yes indeed...such thing do leave evidence. zeemike Dec 2012 #187

For cripes sake. gcomeau Dec 2012 #189

It is there...you just did not see it. zeemike Dec 2012 #197

No. It. Is. Not gcomeau Dec 2012 #198

What you watched it for about one minute? zeemike Dec 2012 #199

I've watched the entire thing. gcomeau Dec 2012 #205

Well what I know for sure is that it will and can never be enough. zeemike Dec 2012 #208

He didn't answer ANY freaking question I asked. gcomeau Dec 2012 #209

Well I have no intentions of running along now. zeemike Dec 2012 #210

Feel free to hang out talking to yourself then. gcomeau Dec 2012 #211

Hay man, he is a Poe, and is just playing you. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #191

That was the conclusion I was leaning towards back in post #170... gcomeau Dec 2012 #193

I know, I responded for a bit too! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #194

I thought you wished to end this conversation? cleanhippie Nov 2012 #154

I never give up when when leaving someone calls me a coward. zeemike Dec 2012 #158

Never called you a coward, but if you feel you are one, that is your problem. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #160

And at the second parting....call them a liar zeemike Dec 2012 #161

Is it not the trait of a liar to fabricate the words of another? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #163

You mean like you did when you "tranlated" my words? zeemike Dec 2012 #164

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" cleanhippie Dec 2012 #165

But you do walk away when you do not have any evidence to support you. intaglio Dec 2012 #157

Is that a bad joke? gcomeau Nov 2012 #151

Creation "science" is also bad theology Nonhlanhla Nov 2012 #12

I would expect some flooding at the end of an ice age. Blanks Nov 2012 #32

Yes, there are flood stories across the world Nonhlanhla Nov 2012 #37

Haven't you had that goofy uncle that tells funny stories. Blanks Nov 2012 #39

There was no world-wide flood Act_of_Reparation Nov 2012 #40

Even older than Utnapishtim Nonhlanhla Nov 2012 #50

More on "Creation science is not only bad science, it is also bad theology." Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2012 #57

You put the words 'Creation' and 'Science' in the same sentence. Shadowflash Nov 2012 #15

The implications are chilling... rrneck Nov 2012 #16

One thing I have seen in YEC is the use of Leontius Nov 2012 #18

Why would a flying opossum evolve *into* something that can't cross the road? n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #20

Haha, good one! nt morningglory Nov 2012 #26

What I always wonder is how they got the parasites on the ark ck4829 Nov 2012 #21

What a cute plush animal. MineralMan Nov 2012 #28

Isn't that an illustration from Durbin's Origin of the Specious? MineralMan Nov 2012 #29

+ struggle4progress Nov 2012 #35

The creator god must have been inordinately fond of beetles vlyons Nov 2012 #30

I was told 1 in 4 of all organisms is a beetle. Blanks Nov 2012 #33

haha but you were told wrong vlyons Nov 2012 #48

neato. Phillip McCleod Nov 2012 #52

What's your source for that? Antblog doesn't agree muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #68

Don't think anybody really knows, but the main competitors would be ants, termites, dimbear Nov 2012 #69

None of them appear to be anywhere near outweighing all the other put together muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #72

I recognize that animal. It is a petauroides volans fergusonia. n/t dimbear Nov 2012 #31

It's a story! Thats my opinion Nov 2012 #94

Uh, have a look at Zeemlike's posts in this thread. cleanhippie Nov 2012 #108

46% of Americans are fundies? trotsky Nov 2012 #153

I reiterate cleanhippie's question, and wait for an answer. 2ndAmForComputers Nov 2012 #155

Me too. Fix The Stupid Dec 2012 #167

Sorry, peeps, but arguing with the guy skepticscott Dec 2012 #169