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Goblinmonger

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53. Dude, stop Bogarting the J

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Atheist group sends 2nd complaint about war memorial [View all] rug Aug 2012 OP

One way or another, pennylane100 Aug 2012 #1

You win the thread. cleanhippie Aug 2012 #2

I doubt it. They'll need to do more than send letters to even come close. rug Aug 2012 #5

well it might take a while, pennylane100 Aug 2012 #7

That's true. trotsky Aug 2012 #12

Will all the crosses at Arlington Cemetery be next? indie9197 Aug 2012 #3

Good question. It's public property. rug Aug 2012 #4

No, it's a stupid question and you know it. trotsky Aug 2012 #21

There you are, raising the tone again. rug Aug 2012 #22

I did, and gave you the chance to reciprocate. trotsky Aug 2012 #23

Here are all symbols currently allowed by the VA for headstones and markers OnlinePoker Aug 2012 #6

"someone's turning atheism into a religion?" it already is zazen Aug 2012 #52

Dude, stop Bogarting the J Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #53

sadly, I'm stone cold sober zazen Aug 2012 #63

Are you perhaps mentally picturing Normandy and not Arlington? Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #24

Proving that God doesn't exist is just as hard as proving that God does exist indie9197 Aug 2012 #8

Neither can be proved. rug Aug 2012 #9

This atheist disagrees longship Aug 2012 #10

Actually, the First Amendment says nothing of the sort and the idea humblebum Aug 2012 #27

What about "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" do you not get? longship Aug 2012 #28

"And SCOTUS has consistently upheld that principle." Hardly. humblebum Aug 2012 #29

Straw man longship Aug 2012 #30

You seem to want to ignore the full text. humblebum Aug 2012 #32

Congress shall make no law respecting... longship Aug 2012 #34

Actually it is not that simple, even though you say it is. And that is why we have a First humblebum Aug 2012 #35

Just the choice of a cross is defacto establishment. longship Aug 2012 #39

Nonetheless, that is the argument facing us today, and you still humblebum Aug 2012 #40

Jefferson only wrote the damned thing!!!! longship Aug 2012 #41

"if government has zero to say in the matter" - Then if the government is saying that the monument humblebum Aug 2012 #42

"Jefferson only wrote the damned thing!!!!"? Are you saying that he wrote the Constitution? humblebum Aug 2012 #43

1786 - VA Statute for Religious Freedom longship Aug 2012 #44

I am quite aware of Jefferson's communications with Madison, and Madison's role. humblebum Aug 2012 #46

Okay! You are fucking wrong yet again longship Aug 2012 #47

Oh boy !? Again, Jefferson did not write the Constitution. humblebum Aug 2012 #48

So it's just a coincidence Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #49

Here I thought you were going to tell something I didn't already know, but still humblebum Aug 2012 #59

Buh bye! longship Aug 2012 #50

Welcome to DU! You just passed inititiation! cleanhippie Aug 2012 #56

I raise a glass to you, cleanhippie. longship Aug 2012 #57

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Oh. You're done again? nt humblebum Aug 2012 #60

And True Xians tried to re-write that Statute, let's not forget... onager Aug 2012 #58

Nice straw man there. No one is COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #13

I wish the Atheists would just step back and practice their non religion in private."? mr blur Aug 2012 #25

Why the fuck should atheists keep their beliefs in private and not religious people? n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #31

Why should anyone keep their beliefs in private if they desire to make Leontius Aug 2012 #33

There's a difference between expressing yourself in public, and demanding government to sanction it. Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #36

Agree somewhat but government sanction is not really needed, it is in fact proscribed by the First Leontius Aug 2012 #37

Its not just not needed, its unconstitutional. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2012 #38

I believe that's just what I said. nt Leontius Aug 2012 #45

Yes, but you'll find many here who dislike being reminded of that fact, lol whathehell Aug 2012 #62

Mayor to discuss response to Woonsocket War memorial complaint struggle4progress Aug 2012 #11

Apparently Woonsocket is the exception to the majority COLGATE4 Aug 2012 #14

RI atheist group says cross should stay struggle4progress Aug 2012 #15

In light of that, I think the Wisconsin group might want to back off and let the local cbayer Aug 2012 #16

The local organization called Ocean State Atheists, that has two members? trotsky Aug 2012 #18

You got smacked down by an actual person involved last time you brought that up, s4p. trotsky Aug 2012 #17

could be, though I should regard as irrelevant the number of people involved, struggle4progress Aug 2012 #19

"though I should regard as irrelevant the number of people involved" trotsky Aug 2012 #20

City vows to keep defending the cross monument struggle4progress Aug 2012 #26

Yeah, uh, not a priority right now. bluestateguy Aug 2012 #51

What can the FFRF do about the sikh shooting? Goblinmonger Aug 2012 #54

Much bigger issue for sure. I'm not sure how it correlates with this particular topic, cbayer Aug 2012 #55