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Major Nikon

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19. You have to put that statement into the context that follows
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 01:33 AM
Dec 2020

Along with the rest of it I do consider it contrarian or I wouldn't have said so. Argument means a back and forth discussion that requires a degree of open mindedness. Without it you simply have contrarianism.

The word "religion" implies a lot more than just belief in a higher power. If you want to do some research, try to find two authoritative definitions for religion which are the same. If you can't open your mind to the idea the word is highly ambiguous, then we are back to contrarianism and I really don't care to discuss the subject further.

The word deism in its strictest sense refers only to the belief in a creator. That doesn't fit what I'd call a religion. If it does for you, more power to you. The word "religion" is certainly ambiguous enough I'm sure you'd could find a definition that fits somewhere, but we'd still be talking about two different things.

That doesn't mean there aren't forms of deism that include a system of beliefs, a moral code, a philosophy, along with rites and rituals that most certainly make it a religion, but then you're back to using hocus pocus to control people.

K&R Blue Owl Dec 2020 #1
Religion always has been and always will be about control Major Nikon Dec 2020 #2
I dont think we can lump all religions into this, Eko Dec 2020 #3
Can you name one that doesn't use hocus pocus to compel a behavior? Major Nikon Dec 2020 #7
Deism. Eko Dec 2020 #11
Hardly a religion at all Major Nikon Dec 2020 #12
Saying its hardly a religion means its still a religion. Eko Dec 2020 #13
Not quite so black and white I'm afraid Major Nikon Dec 2020 #14
Some people argue just to argue. Eko Dec 2020 #15
The contrarian takes a statement and looks for the narrowest exception for contradiction Major Nikon Dec 2020 #16
Ok buddy. Eko Dec 2020 #17
You really think this is a contrarian statement? Eko Dec 2020 #18
You have to put that statement into the context that follows Major Nikon Dec 2020 #19
Well, I would prefer to define my original reply Eko Dec 2020 #20
I could certainly argue it doesn't Major Nikon Dec 2020 #22
I understand what you are talking about Eko Dec 2020 #23
Most of the definitions you provided imply if not explicitly require an interventionalist deity(s) Major Nikon Dec 2020 #24
I believe you are misreading the definitions. Eko Dec 2020 #25
You have one statement in there I found rather interesting Major Nikon Dec 2020 #26
Ha. Eko Dec 2020 #27
Pretty sure I've already told you more than once deism can be a religion Major Nikon Dec 2020 #28
Cheers. Eko Dec 2020 #29
If you have some better scources for the definition for religion Eko Dec 2020 #21
It's okay to live like shit, because after you're dead, it's all roses and cake forever. brewens Dec 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #5
Locus of Control safeinOhio Dec 2020 #6
In fact, religion is a sociopolitical control mechanism SheltieLover Dec 2020 #8
"opiate of the peopls" marx rampartc Dec 2020 #9
Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #10
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