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turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
8. Perhaps it a choice of what matters,
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 06:46 PM
Jun 2012

fund a media aspect or send the money to Somalia where folks seem in need. Handing out Bibles is fine, but how do they fill an empty belly or bandage a wound? Sometimes the best we can do is collect labels to help a Stateside concern. Our local food pantry, learned two weeks ago that it is going to cut back on use to twice a month, Sunday it was decided our Board would look into donating $400-$500, and to try to keep the item in the budget consistently. Some of us are still reeling, when the TeaPartyers...in less than a year's time food pantry use/need tripled. TRIPLED, still makes me dizzy.

Our Pastor works two jobs, Sunday and also a chaplain for a local hospice unit. Her husband also a minister, we get two for one wage, also teaches at a local college, is involved with community groups,AlaNon, etc. Plus their son is in college working on his degree.

My pastor in another State, had it a little easier, still his days were full. I know in SecondHarvest we averaged at least sixty a week, mostly families, and mostly one parent families or GAP(grandparents as parents). True it was cost by pound, and reduced to that of retail, but that's a lot of families each week. I know he attended every community meeting, because I attended them also-sadly we used to sit next to each other and made more than a few cynical sarcastic jokes and observations. He also seemed to have an endless less of hospital visits-darn people getting sick. STILL Mondays he was a Dad and a husband, no one felt angry about it.

Its the wrong group to put charismatic folks on a stage in front of a microphone to be televised. Its not the focus to tell someone what to think, what to believe nor how to live.
We seem to call it respect, because we sure don't want someone to make us their puppet either. For sure I've a couple Evangelical friends who gladly lecture me on Obama, on right to life and sexual orientations-the only reply I can make is to beware of false teachers, and remind them "let you who is without sin, cast that first stone."

Finally I'll use the word Bible. Seven levels to literary works, story-symbolic-metaphoric-and finally to Spiritually Linguistic. You use your own mind, your own understanding, not mine, not Hagee's, not Creflo Dollars, not even Joyce Meyer. Most of the characters used for a purpose seemed to always be flawed, the cracked vase that drips water along a path.

Now I'm giving you a great target to attack here, dunno perhaps there is this urge to be a martyr??? Still its my mind, my soul and my choice to believe. The person I choose to follow happened to attempt to teach to love each other, in fact the challenge was to love your enemies, used the term even the pagans love those who love them. No, the idea is NOT to heap coals on their heads, its to take a step back from Id/Ego and see commonunity we all share.

yep, made quite a target. But doubt you'll find a liberal Christian with the agenda of having a media ministry.

Several reasons cbayer Jun 2012 #1
As a curch going, 'all are welcome at god's table' xchrom Jun 2012 #3
With all the data available about millenials (and others) leaving the cbayer Jun 2012 #4
I honestly don't know dmallind Jun 2012 #7
I don't think snarky atheists who hide out in the obscurity of a small group on an internet site cbayer Jun 2012 #26
I have been told, in this forum, that Christianity was necessary for the Civil Rights movement. trotsky Jun 2012 #29
Obviously your bar for what is considered mockery dmallind Jun 2012 #37
Really? No American Christian will ever experience anything close to what you have? cbayer Jun 2012 #38
Are you denying that Christian privilege exists? laconicsax Jun 2012 #41
I'd like to take a moment to highlight what was just displayed here. trotsky Jun 2012 #42
because fear based religion sells better to people who are afraid of.... msongs Jun 2012 #2
But love/social justice based religions sell well to liberal/progressive people. cbayer Jun 2012 #6
we've left the physical church and find what we need on our deck watching birds, or kayaking NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #5
Perhaps it a choice of what matters, turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #8
Both agree and disagree with this dmallind Jun 2012 #23
Think about the enormous crowds that go to see touch football games, compared to the NFL. dimbear Jun 2012 #9
What happened to the liberal preacher in the book "Elmer Gantry?" nt raccoon Jun 2012 #36
Elmer Gantry update: dimbear Jun 2012 #40
Jesus seemed to do alright selling liberal Christianity. WingDinger Jun 2012 #10
Really? laconicsax Jun 2012 #12
Well, he certainly didnt do as alright as a televangelist, but WingDinger Jun 2012 #17
Good point, but guys like him only come around every couple of millennia Starboard Tack Jun 2012 #25
The same thing that makes churches rrneck Jun 2012 #11
Looking for a few good men. ;-) hattiebgood Jun 2012 #13
Jim Wallis and Tony Campolo are homophobic bigots. n/t laconicsax Jun 2012 #14
I should read them more because. . . hattiebgood Jun 2012 #16
Here are some links: laconicsax Jun 2012 #18
And how do you think Jesus would feel about their judgmental, bigotted asses? WingDinger Jun 2012 #19
Assuming he ever existed, he probably wouldn't have minded. laconicsax Jun 2012 #20
Give me a friggin break. Greece was all about the penis. WingDinger Jun 2012 #21
Umm...Jesus wasn't Greek. He was meant to have lived in Roman Judea. laconicsax Jun 2012 #22
... there were Liberal Christians once.... scribble Jun 2012 #15
The first hurdle to clear is defining what liberal Christianity is. trotsky Jun 2012 #24
True, but there's no need to aim for unifying even liberal Christianity in total. dmallind Jun 2012 #30
I think it's much trickier for liberal Christianity though. trotsky Jun 2012 #32
WHAT? Jim Homophobe Wallis? 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #43
Why should we "sell" Christianity? jeepnstein Jun 2012 #27
In an ideal world you'd be right. This isn't one dmallind Jun 2012 #28
Is there data to support your claim that "gay bashing" comes up tops when people cbayer Jun 2012 #31
Research has been done and books have been written. trotsky Jun 2012 #33
Great article. Thanks. cbayer Jun 2012 #34
This email came a while back: turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #35
Very good! cbayer Jun 2012 #39
Step 1: Edit the Bible Bradical79 Jun 2012 #44
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