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Lacipyt

(58 posts)
58. So what do you know?
Sat May 19, 2012, 11:06 AM
May 2012

"Progressive values" are "the right thing to do?" And you know this, how? Do you have an innate understanding of right and wrong? That is something I lack, and wish to know how to acquire it. Is there some formula, empirically tested, of course, that allows you to rest easily knowing you are in the right?

The "struggle for human rights", as you put it, is often also a "struggle against religion." Now without a qualifier like "some" or "most," using a noun like "men" or "religion," it's fair to assume you mean ALL of said group and not merely a part of it.

You strike me as the type utterly, happily ignorant of the the U.S. Bishops urging federal immigration reform, an end to the embargo in Cuba, applaud the repeal of the death penalty in CT, issue an ecumenical document on the connection between the Eucharist and environmental stewardship, call on the President to ban landmines, and argue that the Federal Budget must not reduce aid to the poor and vulnerable because you're just, obsessed, maybe, with sex and how they stand on those issues.

I can understand that. I was young and virile once myself. I've discovered, happily, there is more to life than that.

I don't mind the theist. I do mind the theocrat. alfredo May 2012 #1
exactly. talk to an ultraconservative long enough and bubbalubagus May 2012 #3
I'm at a loss as to how thir relates to the OP nt Thats my opinion May 2012 #11
Any theocratic state--which is defined as a nation with an official state church, Thats my opinion May 2012 #32
I lived in a theocratic state. It was ugly and violent. The people rose up and alfredo May 2012 #36
Finland etc. etc. tama May 2012 #55
I was thinking this was a personal opinion of the OP edcantor May 2012 #2
So, what is the justification for variation when the ends are the same? patrice May 2012 #4
It does not apply to all theists--just as no perspective applies to all atheists. Thats my opinion May 2012 #12
The Democrats are a coalition of different coalitions. Theist, Atheist, Jews, Greens, and anti war alfredo May 2012 #22
+1 - well said, alfredo cbayer May 2012 #35
I have little patience for theists here who despise atheism and say things like: trotsky May 2012 #5
Moral standards that come from within are preferable, but some that lack alfredo May 2012 #23
So why do YOU constantly have to try skepticscott May 2012 #6
That poster does bring religions into the mix Dorian Gray May 2012 #10
Meeting in the middle is not what I have in mind. Thats my opinion May 2012 #13
That's what I meant Dorian Gray May 2012 #40
Thanks for missing the point completely skepticscott May 2012 #18
I don't think I missed the point Dorian Gray May 2012 #39
Methinks it is you that continually misses the point in favor of personally attacking TMO Starboard Tack May 2012 #66
So which is it? skepticscott May 2012 #73
"And your claim that there are atheists here who despise ALL religion is just another damned lie" humblebum May 2012 #24
Prove me wrong, then skepticscott May 2012 #44
There are other ways of knowing Goblinmonger May 2012 #45
The simple words "I hate religion" or " All religion is BS" or any similar comment humblebum May 2012 #46
Nice try at deflection skepticscott May 2012 #47
Speaking of lame and diversionary, you have just been proven wrong, but if you insist humblebum May 2012 #48
You provided NO proof, NO evidence, NO links, as usual skepticscott May 2012 #49
Another red herring. nt humblebum May 2012 #50
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! laconicsax May 2012 #51
Holy shit! cleanhippie May 2012 #118
I'm waiting for the only unused ridiculous response: laconicsax May 2012 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie May 2012 #124
It wouldn't be DU any other way. n/t laconicsax May 2012 #125
there are atheists here who despise ALL religion is just another damned lie. AlbertCat May 2012 #41
Duh! It's the RELIGION GROUP Starboard Tack May 2012 #64
Is the room intended solely skepticscott May 2012 #77
WTF are you talking about? Starboard Tack May 2012 #98
Uh, you were the one who asked ME skepticscott May 2012 #100
OK, I got it. Thanks. Starboard Tack May 2012 #101
As a nonbeliever... EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #7
So what do you know? Lacipyt May 2012 #58
I certainly don't ascertain Progressive values EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #59
Self-Evident? Lacipyt May 2012 #60
Nowhere did I say that it was black and white EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #61
I L-U-V It! Lacipyt May 2012 #62
Yep, I made a comparison between the KKK and the Catholic Church EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #63
Would you also then dare to compare militant atheism to the KKK? humblebum May 2012 #65
To be fair, that's not an apt comparison. daaron May 2012 #67
"You non-believers did it, so we can do it!" - humblebum May 2012 #69
Sudo !! daaron May 2012 #71
No, but I would compare communism to the KKK EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #68
So you would compare an economic system to a hate group? nt humblebum May 2012 #72
If both the economic system and hate group EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #74
Not done by communists humblebum May 2012 #81
Why don't you compare it to NAMBLA while you're at it? rug May 2012 #75
I don't object to its existence EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #78
Oh really? rug May 2012 #80
I thought I did name someone EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #88
Your position is evolving rug May 2012 #90
Sure EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #94
It's not my interpretation, it's your words. rug May 2012 #95
You seem to be the only one here skepticscott May 2012 #79
Oh you're right. "Criminal hate organization" is au courant. rug May 2012 #82
Well, both NAMBLA and the RCC have a record of allowing child rape. laconicsax May 2012 #83
That's incorrect. rug May 2012 #84
Sorry, does NAMBLA not approve of child rape? laconicsax May 2012 #85
The RCC does not. rug May 2012 #86
So why did they abet the rape of so many children? laconicsax May 2012 #87
Covering up a crime is not abetting or approving or advocating a crime. rug May 2012 #89
No, but deliberately taking action that allows the crime to continue is. laconicsax May 2012 #91
It is truly mind-blowing skepticscott May 2012 #93
What about providing a child rapist a clean slate and access to fresh victims? trotsky May 2012 #126
Serious question. Lacipyt May 2012 #105
Were you meaning to ask a question or were you commenting on mine? laconicsax May 2012 #110
Good Point Lacipyt May 2012 #121
Unfortunately, there have been DUers who have attempted to excuse the Church's behavior. laconicsax May 2012 #123
Interesting. Is there a link between NAMBLA and the RCC? cleanhippie May 2012 #106
The only link I've seen is the cartoons you posted. rug May 2012 #107
Me too. I guess they work independently of each other. cleanhippie May 2012 #108
Keep digging, you'll find a connection somehow. rug May 2012 #109
Aside from the pedophilia, I doubt there are other connections. cleanhippie May 2012 #111
Pedophilia itself is not a connection. rug May 2012 #112
I guess you're right. It's more of the refusal to effectively deal with their members who practice cleanhippie May 2012 #113
That is the point exactly. rug May 2012 #114
I do not disagree, but there is a common thread, and that is pedophilia. cleanhippie May 2012 #115
"The hierarchy had an appalling - and often criminal - reaction." laconicsax May 2012 #120
I Am Flattered Lacipyt May 2012 #104
Put on your Sunday best, kids! EvolveOrConvolve May 2012 #117
Two News Stories Lacipyt May 2012 #122
Hang in there!! nt Thats my opinion May 2012 #128
Congratulations, you seem to have come to the right place - mr blur May 2012 #129
Yikes LaurenG May 2012 #8
To all of you, Thats my opinion May 2012 #9
Let me try again LaurenG May 2012 #14
Thanks for the response Thats my opinion May 2012 #33
Who's not allowing you to have your theological/theocratic beliefs? xfundy May 2012 #15
I'm a bit surprised LTX May 2012 #26
Absolute nonsense. mr blur May 2012 #27
I agree. Curiosity is for the weak. LTX May 2012 #31
Just ignore that thing, whatever it is, behind the curtain. AlbertCat May 2012 #42
Well, the laws of physics are not alone. LTX May 2012 #43
People can, of course, ignore the weirdness of all this AlbertCat May 2012 #53
And thank man LTX May 2012 #57
'The laws of physics? Because that's all there is "behind the curtain". ' Starboard Tack May 2012 #70
Not much imagination going on in your world, is there? AlbertCat May 2012 #92
LOL! You said it. Starboard Tack May 2012 #96
You do understand... eqfan592 May 2012 #97
Sure. I understand that. Starboard Tack May 2012 #99
Just as a quibble (well, more than a quibble). LTX May 2012 #102
Thank you, LTX. Hit's a nerve with me, too. nt daaron May 2012 #103
Thanks. I stand corrected. Starboard Tack May 2012 #116
Some of us travel beyond our own backyard in our inquiry. AlbertCat May 2012 #127
No, curiosity is for the rational - faith in the supernatural is for the weak. mr blur May 2012 #52
Which means that LTX May 2012 #56
I just never respond to those who make those snarky put downs. Thats my opinion May 2012 #34
You wrote: laconicsax May 2012 #16
Hammer hits nail... rexcat May 2012 #17
As usual, the poster in question skepticscott May 2012 #19
It is hard to ignore the facts... rexcat May 2012 #20
Ding ding! Winner! nt mr blur May 2012 #28
Is it wrong to despise Republican economic policies? stopbush May 2012 #21
Whatevs. Iggo May 2012 #25
I guess we don't find you as interesting and important mr blur May 2012 #29
3-3 to leave your post... SidDithers May 2012 #37
#1 has pretty lousy standards. laconicsax May 2012 #38
I approve this result, for post 29 conveys truth. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #76
........... Angry Dragon May 2012 #30
I really doubt anyone "despises" you for your beliefs. xfundy May 2012 #54
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