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MineralMan

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23. The key word in my statement that you copied was "critical."
Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:01 AM
Feb 2018

You left out that word in your post title. There is a difference between being able to think and using critical thinking. You may not recognize that difference, but it exists.

Please do me the courtesy in the future to put quotation marks around my words and link to the source. I'd appreciate that. Here is a link to the OP which contained that quote:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1218269030

Please do not use anonymous callouts from DU threads and then criticize the unnamed author of words you copied and pasted. That is impolite, at best.

Post honestly, please, guillaumeb.

No edhopper Feb 2018 #1
A very nuanced answer. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #3
That I personally can't, edhopper Feb 2018 #12
Prove that love exists. eom guillaumeb Feb 2018 #34
Really? edhopper Feb 2018 #58
So you do have faith. As do we all. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #70
Love is proven all the time. Many actions that we see in human behavior are explained only by Doodley Feb 2018 #88
Why not self-interest as an explanation? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #89
I will accept self-love as an explanation for self-serving actions that are based on an illusion Doodley Feb 2018 #98
Which description could apply to many relationships. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #102
There is also the love of the senses. Why do I keep eating chocolates and ice cream? Why do I Doodley Feb 2018 #106
Chocolate and iced cream are good for you. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #108
Apizza pie avec ham, pineapple, cheese, splashes of bbq sauce. 😋 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #111
No ham thank you. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #129
Around these parts they call it Hawaiian. (?) 🙂 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #141
Sounds good, but I recommend taking the leap of faith to the the gates of the pineapple pizza! Doodley Feb 2018 #113
Oh, with peepers onnit, too. Weather forecast: 'Hot today. Chili tamale.' 🤣 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #120
Nice!! guillaumeb Feb 2018 #131
Im gonna say cilla4progress Feb 2018 #2
I understand that answer. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #5
Now THAT's a very nuanced answer! yallerdawg Feb 2018 #13
But you still believe some of the Bible edhopper Feb 2018 #32
ed, well done saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #85
And the literalist version is used by them as the basis for all of their attacks. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #35
I should have read a bit before posting Lordquinton Feb 2018 #72
Was the post intended to be allegoric? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #78
Well, you made your choice clear Lordquinton Feb 2018 #135
Is Jesus edhopper Feb 2018 #90
Yes, as are we all children of the Creator. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #91
So Jesus was not edhopper Feb 2018 #92
We are all children of the Creator. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #93
And you wonder edhopper Feb 2018 #94
Its transparently dishonest. Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #95
Jesus, the Christ, is God Incarnate. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #150
Furthermore, sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #151
I think we have to edhopper Feb 2018 #159
And I'm invoking the 'Fifth'. Plus, "I do not recall." Done here. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #160
In some sects, yes TlalocW Feb 2018 #4
What is truth? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #6
True TlalocW Feb 2018 #8
If that is your truth, or your belief, I accept that and understand it. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #36
OK willy, since you are so bright.... thewhollytoast Feb 2018 #127
No, thanks. MineralMan Feb 2018 #128
I hope the joke is good. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #133
ΟΩΝ sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #149
We all need faith - faith that our eyes and minds are not deceiving us, faith that our sources of Doodley Feb 2018 #96
Do you mean truth the property, or truth the element? ;) greyl Feb 2018 #17
Proof of evolution? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #37
The original post from which the material came from MineralMan Feb 2018 #60
The biggest obstacle to dialogue here Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #7
Illustrating my point nicely. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #39
This isn't a forum devoted to theism, per se. At least not a protected ones. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #55
Feel free to address my other points. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #66
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOL Lordquinton Feb 2018 #75
One of your best to date. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #80
Now you're not making sense Lordquinton Feb 2018 #134
I can be tough to ad lib. Mariana Feb 2018 #137
True Lordquinton Feb 2018 #139
Y'all preferovať paperovy odpovede? sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #152
How about honest discussion and no attacks? Lordquinton Feb 2018 #188
And visa-versa, even-steven. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #192
No attacks and honest discussion Lordquinton Feb 2018 #193
I could 'fall' for one of y'all in a spiritual manner, sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #194
It's pretty one sided Lordquinton Feb 2018 #195
I'm not correcting. You meant 'time' and not 'team', yes? sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #197
It was supposed to be time Lordquinton Feb 2018 #207
Am aware of this group having a long history. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #211
Or you did not follow. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #138
Uh-huh Lordquinton Feb 2018 #140
Right. You are a veritable Faulkner and we're all too stupid to read what you've written. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #158
Again insulting people's intelligence. trotsky Feb 2018 #171
No, making a comment on one poster deliberately refusing to engage. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #172
"deliberately refusing to engage" trotsky Feb 2018 #173
Do you think he wishes to see change? Mariana Feb 2018 #183
As he's made clear, he is playing to an audience. trotsky Feb 2018 #186
No, as multiple people have surmised, what gil wants is a platform. trotsky Feb 2018 #202
Perhaps you should try dialogue. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #199
Dammit, lost another one. trotsky Feb 2018 #201
My comment was to a poster deliberately refusing to engage Lordquinton Feb 2018 #196
You mean the two strawmen you built? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #114
A good idea on your part. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #130
Defend this then: Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #161
Defend it? It is obvious to see from any reading of the posts here. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #164
Obvious? Reread what you wrote. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #166
If you are reading the posts here, not just in this thread, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #168
His adoring public appreciate the lies, I'm sure. Mariana Feb 2018 #184
"a forum devoted to....................THEISM." trotsky Feb 2018 #83
Typical of you. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #101
To actually quote the rules of this group when discussing the rules of this group? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2018 #116
As on many discussion forums, some always seem to conflate MineralMan Feb 2018 #124
To quote the Statement of Purpose for this forum? trotsky Feb 2018 #122
I yam a 'believer' but at times border on Ms. In-between. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #104
This forum is not devoted to theism. Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #97
Maybe they are trying to wake up those who are blindly a member of a club, usually because they Doodley Feb 2018 #103
Judgmental. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #107
I don't agree that the GOP and Trump exhibit Mariana Feb 2018 #154
Are you saying that the expression Christian values is meaningless? To me, the most obvious meaning Doodley Feb 2018 #155
Yes, I think the expression is meaningless. Mariana Feb 2018 #156
I also believe the expression is meaningless. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #157
Dilly Dilly gibraltar72 Feb 2018 #9
I suspect most theists don't waste time Mariana Feb 2018 #10
Well, hay, a diplomatic response. (no text) sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #11
Perhaps the poster should have used language skills to more carefully word guillaumeb Feb 2018 #40
Had you linked to the thread from which you quoted out of context, MineralMan Feb 2018 #61
The last sentence reads: guillaumeb Feb 2018 #73
Since you quoted me out of the context of my original post, MineralMan Feb 2018 #162
Evasion is the best choice. Your last sentence clearly says what I talked about. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #165
I understand "no critical thinking skills" to mean.... yallerdawg Feb 2018 #14
No edhopper Feb 2018 #33
I suspect that you are correct. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #41
I have the intellect of a "third or fourth grader." yallerdawg Feb 2018 #54
We all know, based on their posts and responses, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #63
Dames of Fantastic Under Garments? They sell neat stuff. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #148
I confess. I yam a dingbat, ding-a-ling, airhead meself. 🙄 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #110
And you have every right to be! yallerdawg Feb 2018 #115
Tanks for thee vote of confidence! 😉 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #118
One of the problems that those who concentrate all their PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #15
If I were only intellectually advanced enough to follow this wordy answer. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #42
No surprise there. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2018 #47
Emotional skill is required to abandon a cherished belief greyl Feb 2018 #16
Present the evidence. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #43
Mon cher Guillaume, pour qui j'ai de l'affection. 🤗 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #18
I yam talking to me, myself and I. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #20
Bon matin Sprinkleeninow. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #44
Ma plume est droopee from four days of rain! 🌧 😘 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #100
Ici, on vois guillaumeb Feb 2018 #105
Oh oui, I yam interested! sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #117
Oui, le franglais, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #132
Heh-heh. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #143
Des deux. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #144
Theists certainly have thinking skills... helmedon1974 Feb 2018 #19
Welcome to DU, and this dialogue. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #45
Word! 👊 eom sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #123
You have made a FALSE and MALICIOUS smear. trotsky Feb 2018 #21
You either misread the post, guillaumeb Feb 2018 #46
You have made a FALSE and MALICIOUS smear. trotsky Feb 2018 #48
Reread my answer. It still applies. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #62
And your smear is still FALSE and MALICIOUS. trotsky Feb 2018 #64
We take showers 2x a day, wash our hair and put on deodorant...🤔 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #121
Thinking skills are generally absent among people. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #22
Like the 'gobble-gobbles' that landed mr. trashbag in our oval office? sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #125
The key word in my statement that you copied was "critical." MineralMan Feb 2018 #23
"Post honestly, please, guillaumeb." trotsky Feb 2018 #24
Well, the original post from which the statement was MineralMan Feb 2018 #26
That's why I conclude it is precisely his agenda. trotsky Feb 2018 #27
Well I think it's a shame. A transparent sort of shame, at that. MineralMan Feb 2018 #38
Typical of you. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #50
Why yes, it's quite typical of me to point out your vicious and nasty tactics. trotsky Feb 2018 #51
You talking into a mirror? AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #67
Excellent, Gil. That'll please your adoring public. nt. Mariana Feb 2018 #119
On the contrary. I yam not imaginary. I yam right chere in splendid living body paint! 💄💅 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #126
Post honestly? Act_of_Reparation Feb 2018 #25
Calling me dishonest? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #49
Dude: If you post what I write, quote, credit and link. MineralMan Feb 2018 #59
Read the last sentence. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #77
I'm talking about this thread, guillaumeb. MineralMan Feb 2018 #81
Defend your last sentence. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #82
My last sentence where? Which last sentence, guillaumeb? MineralMan Feb 2018 #84
Yes, becasue you omitted the direct point of his comment; parsimony. AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #65
Out of curiousity, why the fuck can't you do it? AtheistCrusader Feb 2018 #71
I would have thought your large, anonymous fan club would have voted a lot more recs for this. trotsky Feb 2018 #28
So, it came upon me as I circled 'round our one storey 'townhome' 😅 sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #147
Someone who studied theology once explained it to me: It's a different way of thinking. DetlefK Feb 2018 #29
It is a different way of thinking. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #52
I went to Catholic grade school, high school wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #30
Agreed. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #53
Surveys have shown that atheists are considered worse than pedophiles in America. Who is being Doodley Feb 2018 #112
I'm glad you hate guillaumeb's OP. trotsky Feb 2018 #56
Are you a Catholic? Doodley Feb 2018 #109
I was baptized Catholic but I have chosen Buddhism as my practice. My brother is a Catholic priest wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #142
Good for you. You have chosen Buddhism, but have you rejected Catholicism? Doodley Feb 2018 #145
I see Catholicism as more or less a superstition wasupaloopa Feb 2018 #146
Critical thinking and theism go together much like oil and water do. malchickiwick Feb 2018 #31
Well, this is a touchy subject, oui? saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #57
True, but some apparently prefer to see everything guillaumeb Feb 2018 #68
From a radio show, saidsimplesimon Feb 2018 #74
Do I have to choose between the two? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #79
And the wise see only one world governed by eternal rules. c-rational Feb 2018 #179
You're reading with such a literalist interpretation Lordquinton Feb 2018 #69
So actually reading the actual words, and the actual final sentence, is a mistake? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #76
Classic Gil Lordquinton Feb 2018 #136
My belief is that theists have the same critical thinking skills as anyone else... ExciteBike66 Feb 2018 #86
You can see what guillaumeb quoted in context at this link: MineralMan Feb 2018 #99
Your "explanation" is contradicted by your own ending. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #163
As the teacher said in "A Christmas Story," MineralMan Feb 2018 #167
Such skills are not encouraged among religious believers, and for obvious reasons. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #169
see this thread 5X Feb 2018 #87
Such skills are not encouraged among religious believers, and for obvious reasons. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #170
What does that have to do with that poster's link? MineralMan Feb 2018 #175
A deity is the ultimate authority figure. Buzz cook Feb 2018 #153
Hmmm...let's see... Fix The Stupid Feb 2018 #174
Interesting exhibition of something. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #176
There are items on that list that you Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #178
Sorry, the overwhelming "something" caused the tiny rational part of my guillaumeb Feb 2018 #181
Gil's legions of fans demand the snarkery, I'm sure. Mariana Feb 2018 #182
Those legions are illusory, I think. MineralMan Feb 2018 #208
Maybe so. Mariana Feb 2018 #209
If those legions are too timid to post in the public forum, then I simply dismiss them. MineralMan Feb 2018 #210
Interesting post and question. If you define a theist as someone who sees the rules and does not c-rational Feb 2018 #177
Generally the insult seems to be used to "prove" that theism is evidence guillaumeb Feb 2018 #180
See post 175. There's your proof that theists lack critical thinking skills. n/t Fix The Stupid Feb 2018 #187
Theists seem to stop looking for answers and only want to find things to support their beliefs Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #185
All theists? Some theists? guillaumeb Feb 2018 #189
Most..........that would also cover scientists Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #190
There's no scientists that are theists. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #198
That is implied in much of what passes for dialogue here. guillaumeb Feb 2018 #200
No, only that if one applies empirical skepticism Voltaire2 Feb 2018 #206
That's in reverse. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #203
Are you a theist?? Angry Dragon Feb 2018 #204
Yes, I do believe I am. sprinkleeninow Feb 2018 #205
I refer you, and everyone else, to this post: MineralMan Feb 2018 #191
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