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Voltaire2

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138. Your analogy was full of fail

Wed Nov 15, 2017, 08:35 AM

Nov 2017

The fact that you still don't grasp why it was just wrong is amusing. There is a distinct difference between a faith-based belief in gods and an evidence based belief in the demonstrable existence of water buffaloes. There are better arguments, as I pointed out. For example mathematics is based on a small set of unprovable assumptions. You might go down that path, it is at least less comical.

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What if God was a singularity? [View all] MineralMan Nov 2017 OP

OKAY Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #1

BOOM! MineralMan Nov 2017 #2

Your Brain Hallucinates Your Conscious Reality A TedTalk sagesnow Nov 2017 #57

If there is something then there can be anything California_Republic Nov 2017 #81

There was nothing; then it exploded unc70 Nov 2017 #3

See...You have it. MineralMan Nov 2017 #5

We are all just trying to escape from the barrel. dhol82 Nov 2017 #4

Hmm... MineralMan Nov 2017 #7

Well not actually dhol82 Nov 2017 #16

Why not? The Blue Flower Nov 2017 #6

A Verse OhNo-Really Nov 2017 #53

You're assuming that reaction was created for us Lordquinton Nov 2017 #71

That's a common enough thing. MineralMan Nov 2017 #78

Thats being... Snackshack Nov 2017 #8

Is existence limited to your imagination? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #13

That's a different theory. MineralMan Nov 2017 #21

So the singularity post is limited to a single theory? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #27

Start your own. MineralMan Nov 2017 #31

I dont believe so. Snackshack Nov 2017 #35

Agreed on the point. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #36

According to Stephen Hawking: SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #9

Yup. MineralMan Nov 2017 #10

Last time I had an original idea it came from nothing... Vilis Veritas Nov 2017 #42

Define the nothing that became everything. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #29

That would require SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #41

It would be interesting... rlegro Nov 2017 #49

Hitchhikers Guide SCantiGOP Nov 2017 #68

How about you first? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #70

I already did just that. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #79

'It's so wrong, it must have been right'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2017 #84

That's a fine answer Lordquinton Nov 2017 #89

After your reply to #29. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #92

That is the correct ordering, yes Lordquinton Nov 2017 #94

Read it again, and after you reply, remind me of your question again. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #95

You forgot already? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #96

Amazing how a choir can sing in harmony. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #97

More like a Greek chorus Lordquinton Nov 2017 #98

Yet another verse of the choir's song. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #99

Greek chorus Lordquinton Nov 2017 #114

What is predictable is that, no matter how often I respond, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #122

Yes, we're all reading from your posts Lordquinton Nov 2017 #125

Your first paragraph contains utter nonsense. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #126

This is too good Lordquinton Nov 2017 #144

Again, you either misread or misframed the issue. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #149

I mean everyone who has read the threads Lordquinton Nov 2017 #157

Right, keep preaching to the converted. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #163

Another take on your reply: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #127

What confused you so much about the question you refused to answer? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #145

So you refuse to answer? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #150

Wrong again G-man Lordquinton Nov 2017 #158

As I thought. A wise decision on your part. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #164

That doesn't even make sense Lordquinton Nov 2017 #168

Simply following the lead of the choir. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #169

Why? trotsky Nov 2017 #85

Isn't "time" an illusion in the realm of Infinity OhNo-Really Nov 2017 #54

Time is a flat circle Lordquinton Nov 2017 #72

The "Big Bang" was debunked years ago. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #152

Yea, it's a terrible show Lordquinton Nov 2017 #160

The Great Spirit is here, there and everywhere throughout the Cosmos. democratisphere Nov 2017 #11

This discussion has infinite potential, and none. MineralMan Nov 2017 #12

I believe infinite kinetic potential. democratisphere Nov 2017 #15

Quick and simple.. MineralMan Nov 2017 #18

Over and out. democratisphere Nov 2017 #23

Will do. MineralMan Nov 2017 #26

Let there be light. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #14

Hmm...No. MineralMan Nov 2017 #19

Shine a light on it for me. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #25

Hum a few bars. MineralMan Nov 2017 #28

Ouch!!!!! guillaumeb Nov 2017 #32

That's the best an almighty powerful EvilAL Nov 2017 #86

Do you understand narrative, and literary devices? eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #87

Are you suggesting the authors of Genesis didn't actually believe in a six-day creation? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #91

I cannot answer for the authors. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #93

You just did. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #100

Nice catch. trotsky Nov 2017 #108

An interesting bit of illogic you displayed. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #109

Illogic? Please explain. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #110

No, I will leave it to you to read the thread and perhaps guillaumeb Nov 2017 #113

No, this one requires some explanation. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #115

No explanation needed, AoR. trotsky Nov 2017 #116

Look at #1, where I offer a personal opinion. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #123

Do I need to define "incredulity" for you? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #129

Again, I cannot understand your leap of 'logic". guillaumeb Nov 2017 #130

Perhaps it is because you seem to believe opinions are justified by virtue of their own existence. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #131

I have previously answered that one also. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #132

Ahaha. 😉 You ain't 👴! eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #103

There are those who do not. n/t sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #102

Clearly true. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #111

Do you understand that EvilAL Nov 2017 #107

Do you understand that what I wrote is my opinion? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #112

So God inspired them to write a particular story.... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #117

Figurative language and symbolism. Because. End of message. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #118

Yeah, OK. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #121

Wottt? sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #136

No. The point is that the biblical cosmology was accepted as accurate for about 1400 Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #139

Please go read what (Eastern) Orthodox Christianity founded in 33 A.D. (or B.C.E. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #143

I have no idea what point you might think you are making. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #153

I understand all that regarding canonical gospel, and when they were sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #154

I should refrain from posting when nearly incoherent. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #155

I'd exclaim, "Oh for God's sake", but that utterance would rattle you. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #137

I think most people are just trying to figure out your "aw, shucks" thing. trotsky Nov 2017 #141

Please show me exactly what you are meaning. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #146

Plus, just bc I'm christyan doesn't mean sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #147

Mysterious ways..... EvilAL Nov 2017 #120

Of course I understand that. EvilAL Nov 2017 #119

If you were talking to Bronze Age human, after arriving in your time machine, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #124

I could easily explain the solar system to them. EvilAL Nov 2017 #134

You think you could easily do so. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #142

I have the proof that people back then EvilAL Nov 2017 #148

Keep believeing that. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #151

Well I can prove people weren't EvilAL Nov 2017 #159

Okay. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #165

Glad you agree. EvilAL Nov 2017 #166

Is good a time traveler now? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #161

To be fair, this God we're talking about is completely incompetent. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #162

So that's it a spelling mistake? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #167

One thing is for sure. Eko Nov 2017 #17

Nah. God was and then was not. MineralMan Nov 2017 #20

And he "created" Eko Nov 2017 #22

We are where we can be. MineralMan Nov 2017 #24

We used to not be Eko Nov 2017 #30

From Buckaroo Banzai: rlegro Nov 2017 #50

"We're not all here because we're not all there." 🤣 No text. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #104

My brother is a pantheist - OhZone Nov 2017 #33

That's not half bad. (Not a wise acreage remark from me.) end of message sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #106

Sorry, can't believe there is GOD because quartz007 Nov 2017 #34

If you have not heard, perhaps you are not listening. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #37

Those who claim to have heard have likely misunderstood. Orrex Nov 2017 #52

But if they actually misunderstood, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #59

No, not at all Orrex Nov 2017 #60

From whom did they hear it? eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #61

Honestly, that's a silly question with two obvious answers Orrex Nov 2017 #62

Obvious is your opinion. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #63

And "It's God" is your imagination Orrex Nov 2017 #64

So you have heard voices? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #73

Inspiration. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #80

So you had an idea Lordquinton Nov 2017 #90

G_D, my Main Man, desires to 'speak to' /communicate with His Creation sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #105

I've never seen or talked to a water buffalo. Nevertheless, I believe they exist. TomSlick Nov 2017 #39

Quartz007 didn't say a god doesn't exist. Mariana Nov 2017 #44

There is plenty of evidence that water buffaloes exist. Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #45

It is a pretty lousy attempt at an analogy. Mariana Nov 2017 #66

Your certainty must be comforting. TomSlick Nov 2017 #135

Your analogy was full of fail Voltaire2 Nov 2017 #138

I'm only certain that there isn't any evidence of gods. Mariana Nov 2017 #140

Thank you for your wisdom. cornball 24 Nov 2017 #133

Not a proof rlegro Nov 2017 #51

I think this gif True Dough Nov 2017 #38

Nice! MineralMan Nov 2017 #46

It is turtles all the way down still_one Nov 2017 #40

That evokes this image True Dough Nov 2017 #48

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Nov 2017 #55

God's a black hole? Nitram Nov 2017 #43

No. A singularity. MineralMan Nov 2017 #47

The ORIGINAL singularity. Nitram Nov 2017 #56

No. I'm asking a question. What if? MineralMan Nov 2017 #65

You can look at my questions as commentary if you wish. Nitram Nov 2017 #67

Great example of explaining your meaning Lordquinton Nov 2017 #74

I try to use explanations when there is misunderstanding. MineralMan Nov 2017 #76

Pick at it Lordquinton Nov 2017 #88

The Singularity in it all is Consciousness. n/t sagesnow Nov 2017 #58

Okay. That means that our whole solar system could be... pokerfan Nov 2017 #69

LOL! MineralMan Nov 2017 #75

Mindwalk mia Nov 2017 #77

Then it wasn't God. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #82

Exactly. MineralMan Nov 2017 #83

It would be stranger if God was a marriedtocracy. Kablooie Nov 2017 #101

Psssst.... Cary Nov 2017 #128

I am reminded of a pulp SF story I read some 60 years ago... Jack-o-Lantern Nov 2017 #156