Religion

Lordquinton

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67. Many can see why you are attempting to remove religion from the conversation

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 03:33 PM

Oct 2017

You'd take us back a hundred years, they have certain rights, but discrimination based on gender, sexual orientation, and race is not protected. They are clinging desperately to their religion to justify their bigotry, and you're here defending them.

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Church denies First Communion to fashion-loving girl because she wanted to wear a suit [View all] Eugene Oct 2017 OP

From the article: guillaumeb Oct 2017 #1

Are the boys allowed to wear suits? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #4

If the dress regulations are specific, you might research it. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #5

And you again didn't speak to my question Lordquinton Oct 2017 #6

Your question has no relevance to the issue. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #24

Yes, I ignored your deflections Lordquinton Oct 2017 #41

Your questions are the deflections. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #49

Nice retort Lordquinton Oct 2017 #68

Possibly because you do not wish to admit that the institution is correct? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #71

So they are correct in their intolerance? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #72

Still avoiding the issue? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #73

You first Lordquinton Oct 2017 #98

Gender based dress code .............. BAD Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #8

Argue with the institution. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #25

the discussion was about narrow minded catholics Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #28

The discussion was about many things. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #29

If thnking that a fine young girl should be allowed to wear a nice white pants suit Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #33

You missed the actual point. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #34

No I didn't Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #39

Organizations have a legal right to set rules. That is the issue. eom guillaumeb Oct 2017 #50

I asked questions, you did not answer them, Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #57

And if I ever attend your school, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #58

Why would you get to question them?? Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #59

You are my guru, my inspiration. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #60

You are no anarchist Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #61

The cognitive dissonance set off a destructive resonance.......... guillaumeb Oct 2017 #63

that does not surprize me in the least Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #65

Your framing is about institutions and rules Lordquinton Oct 2017 #42

Organizations have a legal right to set rules. That is the issue. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #51

Many can see why you are attempting to remove religion from the conversation Lordquinton Oct 2017 #67

Where do you, or any other, find evidence of this? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #70

I would think that if a boy wanted to wear a kilt ........... it would also break the rules Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #9

I thought about starting with that Lordquinton Oct 2017 #19

so true but I assume it is broken down to sex on what to wear Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #21

Which is where the issue arrises Lordquinton Oct 2017 #23

Some seem intolerant of the fact that institutions have the right to enforce certain rules. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #31

Institutions have the right to enforce certain rules? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #43

He just makes it too easy sometimes. trotsky Oct 2017 #47

See #53. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #54

You're not helping yourself here Lordquinton Oct 2017 #66

A careful reading of my other post regarding the shark suit and Austria guillaumeb Oct 2017 #69

"institutions have the right to enforce certain rules" trotsky Oct 2017 #46

Do you know the difference between private institutions and the government? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #53

Government is an institution, and you didn't distinguish. trotsky Oct 2017 #64

I would assume that is part of their religion Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #74

Agreed. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #75

rules are NOT customs Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #78

It seems to me that some here cannot admit that institutions can make rules. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #84

Of course they can make rules. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #86

institutions can make rules. Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #91

What I said was my entire point. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #92

At one time priests could marry and have families Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #93

You can project, or frame, as you wish. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #94

The OP was about a church denying a young girl her wish of wearing a nice pants suit Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #95

If it is private it has the right to have dress codes Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #7

We agree that private institutions can impose rules. eom guillaumeb Oct 2017 #26

Private schools have a right to set things like dress codes. TexasProgresive Oct 2017 #22

Agreed on your points. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #27

This is not a matter of legal issues at all. MineralMan Oct 2017 #48

No worries. This problem will be resolved soon enough. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #81

I will not step aside to avoid that "avalanche" at this point. eom guillaumeb Oct 2017 #85

And you are free to do so. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #87

At the current rate of theist to non-theist "conversion", so to speak, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #88

Look closer at people under 40. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #89

Projections, or "projection"? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #90

Trend lines. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #96

Others well after us will see. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #97

They didn't actually deny her Communion. LisaM Oct 2017 #2

First Communion is a celebration in the joining of a soul to the church Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #10

I did not say I thought it was an acceptable response. LisaM Oct 2017 #12

I understood the pants acceptance Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #13

I just don't like misleading headlines (clickbait!) so I try to flag them. n/t LisaM Oct 2017 #14

I bet she would have been very pretty in her pantssuit Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #15

There was a picture of it somewhere. LisaM Oct 2017 #17

The intolerant gender separation is strictly enforced Lordquinton Oct 2017 #3

organized religion is so tolerant Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #11

The good deeds of the church are held above reproach Lordquinton Oct 2017 #20

What's ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #35

Roman Catholic Church Lordquinton Oct 2017 #44

In the town I live in there is a Catholic school and Doreen Oct 2017 #16

Well, my town had that in the public schools. LisaM Oct 2017 #18

I know they used to do that at public schools also but they had Doreen Oct 2017 #45

It was a peculiar time.... LisaM Oct 2017 #52

That is funny. Doreen Oct 2017 #55

It was funny, and the poor kid (now a freshman at Vanderbilt) has to hear about it a lot. LisaM Oct 2017 #56

Church forgot that we have religious freedom in this country. McCamy Taylor Oct 2017 #30

Have you ever seem Muslim men wearing a long robe in public? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #32

What does religious freedom ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #36

Good lord, females fought that battle when I was in high school and we won. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #37

Don't take communion, it is not a real thing? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #38

And stay out! Iggo Oct 2017 #40

K&R!!! She's learning at an early age what religion is all about. Hope she walks and RKP5637 Oct 2017 #76

There's so much more to life without religion. Iggo Oct 2017 #80

It's in the bible and communion dresses are big business lunasun Oct 2017 #62

This is news why? It's the Catholic "Fetuses' Lives before Women's Lives" Church. 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2017 #77

An understandable sentiment, but blaming the victim isn't a productive use of our time. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #82

There is no victim here - only delusional parents who seemed to think the Catholic Church 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2017 #83

As a church or church school, are they not a private institution? left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #79