Religion

JFN1

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44. Very well said.

Sat Apr 21, 2012, 03:33 PM

Apr 2012

People who fear atheists out of ignorance, and those who practice religious bigotry because they dislike and/or fear all non-believers, will likely remain incapable of the courageous honesty you exercise in living your own beliefs, which would allow them to participate in the sort of mutual respect you are practicing...

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As a long-time atheist, I'm often asked if I "respect" religion. [View all] MineralMan Apr 2012 OP

The subtlety might be too much for them to get Warpy Apr 2012 #1

Those who call believers deluded may find the subtlety too much for them. rug Apr 2012 #7

Deluded, eh? Who used that word? MineralMan Apr 2012 #19

You can read post #3 in this thread: rug Apr 2012 #24

Then, I suggest that you post your reply to that post. MineralMan Apr 2012 #25

As a matter of fact I wasn't replying to you at all. rug Apr 2012 #29

The nature of DU discussions is that anyone MineralMan Apr 2012 #33

In that case, keep your suggestions as to whom I reply to to yourself. rug Apr 2012 #35

Sir, Yes Sir! MineralMan Apr 2012 #42

Off the shelf delusions vs. Individually created delusions NAO Apr 2012 #32

A delusion is fixed, false belief that is maintained despite evidence to the contrary. cbayer Apr 2012 #37

Some might say that the definition of self-delusion... cleanhippie Apr 2012 #66

To maintain that there is a god or gods is not, as no one can submit evidence to the contrary. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #67

Again, I object to the incorrect use of a technical term. cbayer Apr 2012 #72

How does being an atheist enable you to recognize people's needs or tendencies? rug Apr 2012 #48

If atheism is simply nonbelief in god(s) AlbertCat Apr 2012 #68

Abraham, Moses, others were delusional by your criteria NAO Apr 2012 #38

Indeed. MineralMan Apr 2012 #47

Do you therefore call someone who believes that to be delusional? rug Apr 2012 #50

No, I do not. MineralMan Apr 2012 #52

The only one who did that so far in this thread is you. Warpy Apr 2012 #28

The only post above mine is yours. rug Apr 2012 #30

Congratulations. Warpy Apr 2012 #43

Frankly, there is little to misunderstand about your post. rug Apr 2012 #45

"Oh, I hate Judaism, but some of my best freinds are Jews." Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #2

The beliefs of my friends and people I respect MineralMan Apr 2012 #5

Everybody believes something... immoderate Apr 2012 #3

As an agnostic, I find that I respect the teachings more than most "religious" people. DCKit Apr 2012 #4

Every religion has two types of "teachings." MineralMan Apr 2012 #9

And yet, Jesus said that unless one hated their immediate family, they could not truly love him. stopbush Apr 2012 #12

The problem with that is that you're talking about a record MineralMan Apr 2012 #16

The problem with that is that you're talking about a record AlbertCat Apr 2012 #69

"I have come to set you against your mothers and fathers" DCKit Apr 2012 #22

Jesus said what other, later, people said he said. xtraxritical Apr 2012 #57

Problem is too many who ask that question mean only the Abrahamic faiths intaglio Apr 2012 #6

And I think the reason is "active recruitment".... physioex Apr 2012 #10

Ah, but Judaism is not an evangelical religion, and it MineralMan Apr 2012 #13

Point taken..... physioex Apr 2012 #17

That is true, more or less, I think. MineralMan Apr 2012 #11

Well put. I usually substitute political affiliation for religious belief to make the point. stopbush Apr 2012 #8

i don't much respect organized religions. i'm coming to not respect many ellenfl Apr 2012 #14

I Just Ask AldebTX Apr 2012 #15

What do you do when you're told Yes? rug Apr 2012 #21

I would only argue that once you start using ridicule, disparagement, pejoratives cbayer Apr 2012 #18

And I would argue that you are incorrect. MineralMan Apr 2012 #20

Do you respect or disrespect people who mock people based on their beliefs? rug Apr 2012 #31

Mock? That is not something I particularly respect in a person. MineralMan Apr 2012 #49

Does "not something I particularly respect" mean you disrespect someone who does that? rug Apr 2012 #51

That depends. I try very hard not to judge people or determine MineralMan Apr 2012 #55

You're saying that on balance you respect them more than you patrice Apr 2012 #23

The guy that figured this out rrneck Apr 2012 #26

Exactly. Thanks. MineralMan Apr 2012 #34

It's amazing how few people actually get that (including some fellow atheists). Well said. NT Grown2Hate Apr 2012 #27

UR Correct..The fact that anybody could fear me because I'm an Atheist is because.. Tikki Apr 2012 #36

In normal conversations with people, I don't bring it up either. MineralMan Apr 2012 #39

MineralMan! Those are my thoughts exactly! DesertDiamond Apr 2012 #40

Thanks! MineralMan Apr 2012 #41

Very well said. JFN1 Apr 2012 #44

Could not the same, but opposite, argument be made here? cbayer Apr 2012 #46

Indeed it could be made. MineralMan Apr 2012 #53

religion marshall gaines Apr 2012 #54

Oh, it is quite possible to die without religious belief. MineralMan Apr 2012 #56

of course marshall gaines Apr 2012 #58

I doubt very seriously that you interviewed many atheists MineralMan Apr 2012 #59

ok marshall gaines Apr 2012 #61

Instead of getting angry, how about describing the personal experiences MineralMan Apr 2012 #62

not angry marshall gaines Apr 2012 #63

I give religion the same respect... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2012 #60

The Four Oxen and the Lion rug Apr 2012 #65

While late to this discussion, I must say that you give credulity to cachukis Apr 2012 #64

If I didn't know better, I would say this is parody. LTX Apr 2012 #70

I don't see the equivalency, to respect an idea is to give it some measure of merit... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #71