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Theyre the ones who own the concept of god rrneck Apr 2012 #1
What? cbayer Apr 2012 #5
I didn't give you much to work with there. Sometimes I hate my phone. rrneck Apr 2012 #58
Nobody owns the concept of God. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #45
If they can convince most of the population what god is, they own it. rrneck Apr 2012 #59
I can't count the number of times someone has told me that I have to be conservative republican if liberal N proud Apr 2012 #2
When you get lumped in with a very big group that is poorly defined to begin with, there cbayer Apr 2012 #6
Good lord, people. Look, the 'mainstream' is conservative. According to the President Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #3
BNW, you missed the point of the article, imo. cbayer Apr 2012 #7
"just give them a chance" - What do you mean by that? trotsky Apr 2012 #10
No, c, you missed the point. First off, my Mother is a Christian. Most of my family also. Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #15
I am much more a part of your community than that community. cbayer Apr 2012 #20
Warren does not speak for millions of us, Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #46
Perhaps not, but Warren speaks for the majority of self-identified Christians in the USA, darkstar3 Apr 2012 #48
That's true, but there are more conservative Christians than liberal ones, at least in the USA. trotsky Apr 2012 #4
Very true LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #8
This is why I again would argue for a change in language. cbayer Apr 2012 #11
So call yourself something besides "Christian". darkstar3 Apr 2012 #49
Have you ever seen me call myself christian? cbayer Apr 2012 #51
I haven't, but I have seen you repeatedly jump into threads that put down assholes like Phelps darkstar3 Apr 2012 #52
Attacking the people here or defending the people here? cbayer Apr 2012 #53
The root of the problem is that you, meaning darkstar3 Apr 2012 #54
I hear you, but don't really know how to address it other than on a small scale - cbayer Apr 2012 #55
Hey, I have to go. I've enjoyed this conversation. cbayer Apr 2012 #56
It would be nice to hear from Christians more about how they're not zbdent Apr 2012 #9
There are plenty of them here at DU. cbayer Apr 2012 #13
No, but there's a very strong correlation. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #12
What would that correlation be? And what statistics do you base it on? cbayer Apr 2012 #14
.78 dmallind Apr 2012 #16
I am not really sure what they are saying here: cbayer Apr 2012 #19
It is the correlation between the importance of religion and conservatism. Exactly as requested. dmallind Apr 2012 #25
But it's broken down by state. Can you see how they got this from the Gallup data? cbayer Apr 2012 #28
The answer is in trotsky's post 27 just below. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #75
She's giving me the silent treatment by refusing to respond to my posts. trotsky Apr 2012 #79
So, since you love math, why don't you crunch these numbers and give me the real answer. cbayer Apr 2012 #80
You're looking at the wrong numbers. trotsky Apr 2012 #81
That distribution is only "even" if you ignore the last column - Sample Size. trotsky Apr 2012 #27
Interestingly, they're only the 2nd most nutso of all. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #76
This is a real problem for everybody longship Apr 2012 #17
Agree. It is a problem for all of us. cbayer Apr 2012 #21
An small example longship Apr 2012 #24
Isn't what you describe contained within the OWS movement? cbayer Apr 2012 #29
Well, maybe, but I doubt it. longship Apr 2012 #37
It all starts small, doesn't it? cbayer Apr 2012 #38
But, but, but, small ain't gonna do it. longship Apr 2012 #39
I would venture that we first have to identify and support leaders. cbayer Apr 2012 #40
That is the whole point of DU longship Apr 2012 #41
And I will say in return that having you around here and talking with you has been my cbayer Apr 2012 #43
We will communicate more, I hope longship Apr 2012 #47
I'd also do MY best to be there. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #57
Thank you longship Apr 2012 #60
thanks equfan! cbayer Apr 2012 #63
I've thought about becoming a donor again... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #66
I thought that small donations don't exist anymore... laconicsax Apr 2012 #73
That's $5 a month. Pretty small, although I realize some don't' have it and some just choose not cbayer Apr 2012 #74
A real life example in the early 1990s in Oregon Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2012 #77
Absolutely true - just like height is not synonymous with basketball prowess dmallind Apr 2012 #18
So, what do you make of the PEW results I posted above? cbayer Apr 2012 #22
a) they do not speak to the issue of correlation b)they show Christians to be more conservative dmallind Apr 2012 #23
I have not made the argument that there is NO correlation, just that it isn't as definitive cbayer Apr 2012 #31
"it makes no sense to paint them all with the same brush" trotsky Apr 2012 #32
No it doesn't make that case dmallind Apr 2012 #35
We most likely will have to agree to disagree on this. cbayer Apr 2012 #36
Actually maybe not dmallind Apr 2012 #42
Another reason for the domination by the religious right on the political landscape is because cbayer Apr 2012 #44
It is unfortunate that the likes of..... wandy Apr 2012 #26
No, you shouldn't keep your mouth shut, imo. cbayer Apr 2012 #33
This is all so true, but sad. northoftheborder Apr 2012 #30
Exactly. How many quietly religious people have done similar things because they cbayer Apr 2012 #34
Now you make sense. It is on you and your fellow liberal Christians Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #61
I prefer, for lack of a better word, cultural Christians over religious Christians... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #50
Not synonymous ... but ... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #62
What an excellent post, Joseph 8th - I would like to try and distill and see if I get it. cbayer Apr 2012 #64
How exactly do you get to your rephrasing in #1? trotsky Apr 2012 #65
Right... NOT destroy... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #69
Do you also think religion and religious groups/leaders/people should be kept out of social cbayer Apr 2012 #71
Nah... but don't expect us to join in droves if... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #72
I think you should apologize for, or edit... trotsky Apr 2012 #78
This is a very helpful post. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #67
I must have missed the posts where Christians were told... trotsky Apr 2012 #68
I wouldn't have eliminated anything... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #70
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