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tama

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35. More is not better

Mon Apr 16, 2012, 04:56 AM

Apr 2012

it's just more. "Better" is about quality, not quantity. And more proof of the belief system that more is better and that only quantity matters is not better.

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How sure are you that atheists don't "get" religion? [View all] Silent3 Apr 2012 OP

Okay, I confess I'm stereotyping here... Permanut Apr 2012 #1

Well you might not know why you are here but I know why I am. cstanleytech Apr 2012 #7

I hear ya... Permanut Apr 2012 #9

I wanted to join seminary before I read the Bible, then I read it... Humanist_Activist Apr 2012 #2

"I cannot wrap my mind around the idea..." tama Apr 2012 #17

There are an awful lot of my fellow "religionists" who don't "get" religion. Common Sense Party Apr 2012 #3

There are an awful lot of my fellow "religionists" who don't "get" religion. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #6

Many atheists are former theists longship Apr 2012 #4

My mother, ever the hopeful social-climber HeiressofBickworth Apr 2012 #5

Another former theist here JFN1 Apr 2012 #8

Former theist (Judaism), now agnostic-atheist sakabatou Apr 2012 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Apr 2012 #11

I'm an agnostic. BlueMTexpat Apr 2012 #12

Being an atheist doesn't mean the person must deny the possibility of something like a deity exists. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #14

No problem on my part with that. BlueMTexpat Apr 2012 #32

Good post tama Apr 2012 #43

Very well written and thought out post. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #73

What's to get??? bpollen Apr 2012 #13

What proof is needed for non-belief? Silent3 Apr 2012 #18

I totally agree, Silent3 Duppers Apr 2012 #15

No problem Silent3 Apr 2012 #19

It's a common observation tama Apr 2012 #16

Brilliant! Silent3 Apr 2012 #20

needs more quantum. dmallind Apr 2012 #21

MUCH more quantum. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #22

Quantum is like the cowbell of woo Silent3 Apr 2012 #30

More is not better tama Apr 2012 #35

Why are you trying to dominate me? Silent3 Apr 2012 #36

A consciouss and satirical projection! tama Apr 2012 #39

No, let's not Silent3 Apr 2012 #41

Yup tama Apr 2012 #44

Is there a train coming? skepticscott Apr 2012 #45

As said tama Apr 2012 #47

! cleanhippie Apr 2012 #77

Are you admitting that Christianity is an addiction? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #23

Religious and authoritarian needs tama Apr 2012 #29

What about people who believed in thing like edhopper Apr 2012 #25

Since you asked the question at the end of your post Leontius Apr 2012 #24

So why do you think most atheist edhopper Apr 2012 #26

Most? tama Apr 2012 #42

You are questioning my question to Leonitus edhopper Apr 2012 #49

Nitpicked 'most'. Thanks for clarification nt tama Apr 2012 #53

For some because they think they will be perceived as so much more Leontius Apr 2012 #100

That seems agree with the idea that many don't believe edhopper Apr 2012 #102

Actually no to your last sentence Leontius Apr 2012 #103

Ahhh yes, I see it now. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #104

You are quite welcome glad to straighten out your gross ignorance on the issue. Leontius Apr 2012 #106

I was only ignorant of the depth of your own ignorance. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #108

Thank you for clarifying. edhopper Apr 2012 #105

I'm sure you do and I understand your position on my statement and at one time felt the same. Leontius Apr 2012 #107

Agree with you on that. cbayer Apr 2012 #27

So why do you think many atheist don't care for religion? edhopper Apr 2012 #50

What do you mean by "don't care for religion"? cbayer Apr 2012 #51

OP asks: edhopper Apr 2012 #56

Oh, I see where you are coming from now. cbayer Apr 2012 #58

If you read it they way I do edhopper Apr 2012 #60

Most of the atheists I know got there after much thought and contemplation. cbayer Apr 2012 #61

I still want to know why Leonitus edhopper Apr 2012 #62

Well, I certainly can't speak for him. cbayer Apr 2012 #63

That was all my post was about edhopper Apr 2012 #80

Who said that you specifically or atheists in general don't "get" religion? cbayer Apr 2012 #28

How about the man who constantly says that only someone "internal" to the faith darkstar3 Apr 2012 #31

Come on, you have a very good idea of the sort of religion you hate, Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #66

I think a good number (if not most) of the atheists... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #68

There are many paths to wisdom. Religion is just one. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #82

A lot of atheists or agnostics have not had it easy when it comes to.. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #86

I don't hate religion. I hate what religious people do in the name of their religion, darkstar3 Apr 2012 #69

Patience is a virtue. ellisonz Apr 2012 #99

darkstar3 gave a good example, but this sort of thing comes up all the time... Silent3 Apr 2012 #34

There is difference tama Apr 2012 #37

They are both the same Silent3 Apr 2012 #38

The agenda tama Apr 2012 #40

If it pushes itself skepticscott Apr 2012 #46

That's a fair point tama Apr 2012 #48

If one starts from a negative and dismissive position on either, it is highly unlikely one will cbayer Apr 2012 #52

So, what did I supposedly lose from when I was religious? Silent3 Apr 2012 #54

I have no idea. If you don't know, how in the world could I? cbayer Apr 2012 #55

I don't think I've lost anything, at least not anything I'd want to keep Silent3 Apr 2012 #57

What are you talking about? cbayer Apr 2012 #59

Since I cannot crawl inside your mind--or your heart, which is even more important-- Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #83

It's your reasoning, not mine, however, that leads to the conclusion... Silent3 Apr 2012 #87

Maybe tama Apr 2012 #90

Faith is the belief in something without proof. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #71

This is another good argument for developing a new language to discuss this. cbayer Apr 2012 #72

Ya know, I'm honestly not sure. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #74

The question you really have to ask yourself is, darkstar3 Apr 2012 #75

Probably about two seconds flat sadly, but at least maybe within our own group... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #76

Then I shall be an Asnarliff! cbayer Apr 2012 #78

Thus began the first Snarliff/Asnarliff forum war! eqfan592 Apr 2012 #79

L Ron Hubbard had a real feel for religion. Hard to deny that he got it all too well. n/t dimbear Apr 2012 #33

My guess is they understand a version of religion that few thinking people hold. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #64

Let me ask you something, Captain Condescend... darkstar3 Apr 2012 #65

There are plenty of thinking people who have no religion. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #67

What you don't seem to get is that you attribute this "thinking faith" to far more people darkstar3 Apr 2012 #70

I know full well that the majority of religionists do not have the POV I represent. Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #84

Where is the proof? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #85

Start with the religion departments at Yale, Princeton, Harvard, the University of Chicago, Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #88

Oh, I can drop names too. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #89

No thanks. No response will ever be enough to pry open a closed mind. nt Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #95

Actually, he gave you a very simple and explicit request that would open his "closed mind." trotsky Apr 2012 #97

"Five links, and no bullshit." <- Maybe you missed that part? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #98

This week's winner of the Bright Shiny Mirror Award. nt mr blur Apr 2012 #101

What exactly was "toxic" about post #4 in this thread? trotsky Apr 2012 #92

You made a judgement about non-thinking theists; Thats my opinion Apr 2012 #94

Uh, no I didn't. #4 is not my post. trotsky Apr 2012 #96

Scientific language... Joseph8th Apr 2012 #81

While as an ideal tama Apr 2012 #91

"You got your chocolate..." Joseph8th Apr 2012 #93