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AtheistCrusader

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114. No retraction of the 'bigot' attack, no material content, smilie present.

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Wed May 13, 2015, 07:08 PM

May 2015

Were you just done for the day, or what?

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When the Catholic Church owns your doctor: The insidious new threat to affordable birth control [View all] trotsky May 2015 OP

You really shouldn't go to a Catholic hospital and expect you will will get any Cleita May 2015 #1

You're missing a huge point of the article. trotsky May 2015 #4

That is a problem and the reason I have been told is that when Cleita May 2015 #9

You may have been told that but the RCC's motivations include Warren Stupidity May 2015 #11

The primary issue is that the RCC is aggressively pursing the purchases. trotsky May 2015 #12

I would because laws are needed that prevent that from happening. Cleita May 2015 #13

Wow, so your church gets a pass for its anti-woman dogma. trotsky May 2015 #17

You are assuming this my Church? Okay I get it where you are coming from. Cleita May 2015 #28

Uh huh. trotsky May 2015 #46

The church is doing everything in its power to force women to give birth. beam me up scottie May 2015 #19

Whaat! Cleita May 2015 #29

Did you read my post down thread? beam me up scottie May 2015 #31

Well, it's the Koch brothers goal to become our kings. Cleita May 2015 #34

But no one on DU excuses the behaviour of the Koch brothers. beam me up scottie May 2015 #35

Well. What I see are Catholic bashing threads to the exclusion of other religions Cleita May 2015 #38

So you are a catholic apologist. beam me up scottie May 2015 #41

Yes, bmus. trotsky May 2015 #47

Right. The RCC's war against women isn't a good enough reason to criticize the church. beam me up scottie May 2015 #79

You know why? There's a good reason. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #51

I am so sick and tired of Catholics, specifically... CoffeeCat May 2015 #53

Again I'm not a Catholic or even a Christian. Cleita May 2015 #55

So why defend the church and its dogma that is attacking women? trotsky May 2015 #57

Yes because my mother was Catholic and I went to parochial school. Cleita May 2015 #58

The RCC is engineered from the ground up to resist change from within. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #62

Not the first time I have been attacked here. Cleita May 2015 #65

I think they should take dogma out of healthcare. PeaceNikki May 2015 #20

Well you see, people shouldn't have voted for Republicans. trotsky May 2015 #24

Right cuz Democrats would *never* defend misogyny wrapped in dogma!! PeaceNikki May 2015 #26

Oh snap! n/t trotsky May 2015 #45

Many have been excommunicated for doing the right thing. Cleita May 2015 #30

What I would like is for women to be treated equally and dogma left out of healthcare. PeaceNikki May 2015 #32

I want that to. What I'm pointing out is that the leopard is not going to change its Cleita May 2015 #36

I am working on it by supporting the ACLU and being politically active, but thanks? PeaceNikki May 2015 #37

I've been going to City Council and County Board of Supervisors meetings Cleita May 2015 #40

In this case, the 'community' being subsumed, is the Greater Seattle Area. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #50

You shouldn't go to a Catholic hospital and expect you will get decent care. PeaceNikki May 2015 #15

The poor used to go to municipal or county run hospitals. Cleita May 2015 #21

Agreed. But they're already in the business of healthcare and they get federal funding. PeaceNikki May 2015 #22

I agree 100%. The funding should end. I've always been against giving taxpayer's Cleita May 2015 #27

My fiancee's Gynecologist's office was bought out/absorbed by Mercy health, an... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #18

I agree with you. It shouldn't be that way. Cleita May 2015 #23

We are lucky that we live in a largish metro-area with more than one health care system... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #39

In Seattle, the RCC has wormed joint operating agreements or ownership into 10 of the 11 AtheistCrusader May 2015 #49

Not dismissing it. Until I entered this thread, I didn't realize how pervasive the problem Cleita May 2015 #54

I do withdraw that, and thank you for acknowledging it. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #59

Are these hospitals being taxed? Cartoonist May 2015 #2

I don't think non-profits of any kind are taxed are they? Cleita May 2015 #10

They get federal funding. The ACLU is suing. PeaceNikki May 2015 #16

They shouldn't be getting federal funding. This was the mess GWB got us into Cleita May 2015 #25

She's been reporting on this for some time. rug May 2015 #3

Catholicwatch.org: keeping track of the catholic assault on healthcare. Dawson Leery May 2015 #5

But...but...Catholic doctrine only affects practicing Catholics skepticscott May 2015 #6

Yeah I'm sure it's no big deal. trotsky May 2015 #7

Baptizing "products of conception" Runningdawg May 2015 #8

Holy shit, wow. PeaceNikki May 2015 #33

I'm surprised they saved the woman instead of the "baby". beam me up scottie May 2015 #44

This is part of a coordinated effort to deny women birth control. beam me up scottie May 2015 #14

Only hospital in town bought by Catholic organization HockeyMom May 2015 #42

Who owned it before and why did they sell? rug May 2015 #43

You tell us 'why they sold'. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #52

You tell me the hospital. rug May 2015 #61

I don't know that hospital's name. I'll give you local hospitals to me. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #63

How interesting. But the question was about hockeymom's hospital. rug May 2015 #64

Because it is its common mode of operation. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #66

That doesn't answer why it's common or why these two transactions occurred. rug May 2015 #67

The catholic org lied about the Swedish takeover. Just liked it lied about I-1000 opposition. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #70

Don't forget the 18 million dollars Swedish was losing. rug May 2015 #83

Unrelated to the catholic prohibition on abortion applied to Swedish. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #86

Very related when Swedish sold themselves. rug May 2015 #87

Does not change the validity of what I said AtheistCrusader May 2015 #91

calling out Catholic bigotry is not it's self bigotry Lordquinton May 2015 #81

Bigots are the least credible people when it comes to bigotry. rug May 2015 #84

Tell me your church's official position on same sex marriage again AtheistCrusader May 2015 #88

They won't perform them. rug May 2015 #89

And lobby to prevent them. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #93

That's a political activity, not church doctrine. rug May 2015 #94

Is this political activity? AtheistCrusader May 2015 #95

No. rug May 2015 #97

How convenient for you. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #98

Facts tend to be convenient in establishing reality. rug May 2015 #99

Facts you say? Ask and ye shall receive. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #100

Are you claiming that someone saying SSM is a tool of the devil isn't bigoted? Lordquinton May 2015 #104

That's about as bigoted as this is: rug May 2015 #105

Not at all Lordquinton May 2015 #106

Oh, bullshit. rug May 2015 #107

You accepted that the Pope is a bigot, that's a big step for you Lordquinton May 2015 #108

Since you were conciliatory, though condescending, rug May 2015 #110

growth is painful, I understand your lashing out right now Lordquinton May 2015 #113

Oh, Lord, if you think that is lashing, you will be unpleasantly surprised. rug May 2015 #116

For now, we'll just have to discuss your dogged deflections for the RCC, I guess. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #115

Except of course that I have agreed and acknowledged that, for instance, Catholic PEOPLE poll AtheistCrusader May 2015 #109

"I will not be silenced by your personal attacks." rug May 2015 #111

we seem a bit miffed, don't we? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #112

Lol, somebody is, Warren. rug May 2015 #117

No retraction of the 'bigot' attack, no material content, smilie present. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #114

that's why we have to call out the pope. Lordquinton May 2015 #92

Here's why Swedish joined Providence. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #68

That details how the deal was made but it doesn't even hint at why Swedish agreed to it. rug May 2015 #69

Maybe if you actually read it. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #71

A Board of Directors decides these things, not the CEO. rug May 2015 #72

It is a common business practice. Party A has money and desire to acquire, Party B likes money, AtheistCrusader May 2015 #73

Bt the qestion I ask is why Swedish agreed to it. rug May 2015 #74

Since they sat at the same PR table and lied about whether services would change AtheistCrusader May 2015 #75

Are you claiming Swedish did not know whaty would happen? rug May 2015 #76

Swedish may have been lied to, sure. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #77

Do you have any evidence of that? rug May 2015 #78

You seem to be confused over what I said. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #80

"Swedish had a 18 million dollar budget shortfall the year below" rug May 2015 #82

You're not following what I said in plain English. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #85

I know exactly what you said and exactly what you speculated. rug May 2015 #90

There was no speculation. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #96

Happening across the country. trotsky May 2015 #48

Catholic health care, a long-time sponsor for the S.F. Giants quietly Ernesto May 2015 #56

K & R historylovr May 2015 #60

The Catholic Health System provides a large portion... NaturalHigh May 2015 #101

Elements of the church have deliberately acquired that health care for a purpose. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #102

"it's kind of hard to complain about the Church" beam me up scottie May 2015 #103

Yes, interesting results from nine years ago. NaturalHigh May 2015 #118

Your cold disinterest in how this impacts the reproductive lives of ALL Americans... trotsky May 2015 #119

"they have to provide ALL OPTIONS to their patients" NaturalHigh May 2015 #120

No, I don't know that. Neither do you. trotsky May 2015 #121

Fair enough... NaturalHigh May 2015 #122

"you can't force the Catholic Church to provide health care options" beam me up scottie May 2015 #125

Bullshit, your non-support of women's reproductive rights when it comes to the RCC speaks volumes beam me up scottie May 2015 #123

I'm not Catholic, but my wife is. NaturalHigh May 2015 #124

You don't have to be catholic to be an apologist for the church. beam me up scottie May 2015 #126

Do you think Catholic doctors... NaturalHigh May 2015 #127

Straw man: "Do you think Catholic doctors should be forced to perform abortions?" beam me up scottie May 2015 #128

"right wing talking points" NaturalHigh May 2015 #129

First, I'm not a "dude". beam me up scottie May 2015 #130

Do I have to repeat my horrific experience with an ectopic pregnancy HockeyMom May 2015 #131