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Silent3

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41. No, I don't think you're talking about ID, but I would guess that there's...

Wed Apr 11, 2012, 05:07 PM

Apr 2012

..."quantum consciousness" bullshit lurking behind your rambling on.

Whether it happens in a brain or inside some "quantum consciousness", there is NO EVIDENCE, and plenty of counter-evidence, that living systems don't "intend" to spread into new habitats, that they don't "decide" that a longer neck would sure be a good idea for reaching those high-up leaves in trees, that living systems (at least not until we came along) don't "design" new genes or new organs in order to gain a "desired" capability.

The types of flaws that living being exhibit, like the insane laryngeal nerve in the neck of a giraffe, are exactly the kinds of flaws you'd expect from a mindless, unintentional process that bumbles and stumbles its way into useful adaptations for exploiting various environmental niches.

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God Just Plain Messed Up When He Supposedly Designed Us [View all] LAGC Apr 2012 OP

You know, some days I really want to believe in a Higher Power... LAGC Apr 2012 #1

I tend to believe the "flaw" is in the nature of man, rather than the biology. FedUpWithIt All Apr 2012 #2

If our biology was better, a lot of flaws "in the nature of man" wouldn't matter Silent3 Apr 2012 #8

God didn't screw up, the human race screwd up, on their own. Not fair to point fingers. crunch60 Apr 2012 #3

take a walk through any big children's hospital......who screwed them up? Namvet67 Apr 2012 #6

Something in a screwed up DNA. Parents pass on to their children many anomalies. Humans crunch60 Apr 2012 #24

Oh, bullshit Silent3 Apr 2012 #28

So tell me, just how do you know what childhood diseases were around a million years ago? crunch60 Apr 2012 #29

Fossil record Silent3 Apr 2012 #30

If a god gets credit for "saving" and healing the sick,...then... Namvet67 Apr 2012 #47

That's a good argument if one believes that god actually saves or heals the sick. cbayer Apr 2012 #49

yes.....i agree Namvet67 Apr 2012 #50

So it's a good argument for the vast majority of US Christians? trotsky Apr 2012 #52

If procreation is based solely on the process of evolution, LARED Apr 2012 #4

That's a very good question. LAGC Apr 2012 #5

Not defective, just a genetic variant. trotsky Apr 2012 #7

AMEN Namvet67 Apr 2012 #48

The process of evolution is mindless, it doesn't care about all the wrong turns... Silent3 Apr 2012 #10

Very well put. n/t trotsky Apr 2012 #11

Why "mindless"? tama Apr 2012 #14

Now that we have evolved intelligence, we can of course try (however imperfectly!) to manipulate... Silent3 Apr 2012 #16

And in this state of evolution tama Apr 2012 #20

You can call evolution "Susan" or "prismatic parking crate" if you like. Silent3 Apr 2012 #27

I'm not calling it "Susan" tama Apr 2012 #31

Do you think that evolution has a thought process? Goblinmonger Apr 2012 #32

Word games tama Apr 2012 #37

If intentionality can happen without thinking... Silent3 Apr 2012 #38

Are you suggesting with your intention tama Apr 2012 #40

I'm sure that elsewhere in the living world... Silent3 Apr 2012 #42

What's blatantly obvious? Silent3 Apr 2012 #33

I see now that your confusion arises tama Apr 2012 #39

No, I don't think you're talking about ID, but I would guess that there's... Silent3 Apr 2012 #41

Intention tama Apr 2012 #43

So what? Silent3 Apr 2012 #44

So to clarify confusions tama Apr 2012 #45

Saying that muffins are an emergent property of train stations is truly... Silent3 Apr 2012 #46

Individuals don't evolve. Mariana Apr 2012 #13

I do evolve, also as individual nt tama Apr 2012 #15

There are two different meanings of "evolve" going on there Silent3 Apr 2012 #17

Theories and meanings of evolution tama Apr 2012 #21

You're not "evolving" here... Silent3 Apr 2012 #26

There's no confusion except in your posts tama Apr 2012 #35

Age of reproduction isn't cultural evolution Silent3 Apr 2012 #36

You know, some posts just aren't worth the effort Mariana Apr 2012 #22

I guess I'm too stubborn and argumentative to easily let some things slide. Silent3 Apr 2012 #34

you are also trying to educate......keep it up Namvet67 Apr 2012 #51

Are you joking, or do you really not understand evolution? laconicsax Apr 2012 #25

No argument from me on that. ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #9

Knees. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #12

Forget the knees, how about the eye! eqfan592 Apr 2012 #18

Or the human body's response to spinal injury Silent3 Apr 2012 #19

You think that's bad. Sometimes he must really just have a bad day. cbayer Apr 2012 #23