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stopbush

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23. Of course not. But it's more risible to treat the Bible as if it contains any actual history

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 03:34 PM

Apr 2012

outside of the mention of a few known personages like Caesar, Herod and Quirinias. Few Biblical scholars will argue that Moses and David were real people. Too bad they can't admit the obvious about Jesus as well.

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The Jesus debate: Man vs. myth [View all] cleanhippie Apr 2012 OP

One thing to consider when discussing "historic Jesus".... Swamp Lover Apr 2012 #1

Another thing to consider when discussing "historic jesus..." cleanhippie Apr 2012 #3

By "extra-biblical", do you also include the Qu'ran? cordelia Apr 2012 #7

It was written 600 years after Jesus supposedly lived. stopbush Apr 2012 #21

So if there is no known Roman record it can't have happened? Leontius Apr 2012 #8

Of course not. But it's more risible to treat the Bible as if it contains any actual history stopbush Apr 2012 #23

Sometimes early Christians were persecuted skepticscott Apr 2012 #5

Good, balanced article. rug Apr 2012 #2

I can certainly understand why one would not believe all the supernatural religious aspects.... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #4

Well, for me... cleanhippie Apr 2012 #6

One could say that, again using my ancient Greek example-- of all that documented in Herotodus... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #9

It is my understanding... cleanhippie Apr 2012 #10

As has already been mentioned, the Qu'ran mentions Jesus hlthe2b Apr 2012 #11

When was that written? cleanhippie Apr 2012 #12

wow... so nearly all the "major religions" were in cahoots? hlthe2b Apr 2012 #14

Cahoots? Not quite the way I characterized it, now is it? cleanhippie Apr 2012 #16

Kindly respond to the rest. "cahoots" is merely term to cover your suggestion they all plagiarized hlthe2b Apr 2012 #17

Fair enough. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #18

Mohammad blatantly plagarized Judaism and Christianity. provis99 Apr 2012 #25

No, they all borrowed from the same sources. nt mr blur Apr 2012 #28

I used to sing with a devout Jew who told me he had no problems with radical Xian fundamentalists stopbush Apr 2012 #30

It was written around 630 CE, ie: six centuries after Jesus supposedly lived. stopbush Apr 2012 #20

My point exactly. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #22

To be fair about the Romans DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #13

Fair enough. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #15

Flavius Josephus had access to Roman archives... onager Apr 2012 #19

well, the Exodus stuff was pretty much made up. provis99 Apr 2012 #26

The portrayal of the Egyptians in the OT is nothing short of overt racism. stopbush Apr 2012 #29

But nobody avers that Aristolte, Socrates or Plato were godsor godmen. That belief is stopbush Apr 2012 #24

Excellent point! nt mr blur Apr 2012 #27

And I ask.. while it is understandable to question the myriad of stories attributed to Jesus... hlthe2b Apr 2012 #31

Why not believe that Rhett Butler was a real person, or Harry Potter? What harm does it do stopbush Apr 2012 #32

Harry Potter isn't real?! :-( nt Joseph8th Apr 2012 #33

re: "Christianity is and always has been a political movement, not a spiritual movement. " hlthe2b Apr 2012 #34

Christianity set up its own form of government and taxation. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #35

Again, that does not make the previous comment any less hyperbolic hlthe2b Apr 2012 #36

Your concern is noted. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #37