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humblebum

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134. I would consider an atheist organization to fall into the realm of atheism.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 12:24 PM
Mar 2012

Seems quite pertinent and relevant to me. However, I am aware that they do not speak for all atheists.

Here we go again! cleanhippie Mar 2012 #1
I have to agree with the thesis--I've said something similar in the past, myself. MADem Mar 2012 #2
Really? Then state these rules and guidlines. Should be easy enough for you. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #3
Oooooh, someone wants a pissy fight! MADem Mar 2012 #5
That would be a position statement, doesn't constitute a religion... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #13
Well, each to their own knitting, then! nt MADem Mar 2012 #36
They did ask you for the rules and guidelines muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #17
Why does anyone need a LOT of rules and guidelines? Some people want DU2 in every aspect of their MADem Mar 2012 #35
You're the one who claimed atheist rules and guidelines exist muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #47
I did name them--you just didn't like their succinct quality and you might want a fight, too. MADem Mar 2012 #50
repeating the definition of 'atheism' is not giving a rule or guideline muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #53
Sure it is--if you don't like my rules, make up your own. I am not the Pope of Atheists, after all. MADem Mar 2012 #54
The term "atheism" is equivocal by itself, but organized atheism, such as humblebum Mar 2012 #132
Since the OP was about atheism, and not American Atheists, or organized atheism muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #133
I would consider an atheist organization to fall into the realm of atheism. humblebum Mar 2012 #134
I'll type it slowly: rules and guidelines. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #27
I just did--sorry if you don't like 'em! Make up your own, then! nt MADem Mar 2012 #34
Exclamation points are your "tell." greyl Mar 2012 #62
OOH....! We've The Mentalist On Board here at DU! Here! Let me give you a few MORE "tells!" MADem Mar 2012 #67
When I snap my fingers, greyl Mar 2012 #75
Don't get a blister, now. nt MADem Mar 2012 #76
I haven't snapped them and you haven't answered the question. nt greyl Mar 2012 #77
I have answered it. I answered it a long time ago. MADem Mar 2012 #81
What hogwash edhopper Mar 2012 #7
agree. juxtaposed Mar 2012 #31
If you spend your life wrapped up in disproving something, sure, that can be seen as cultish, too. MADem Mar 2012 #32
You broaden the definition so much edhopper Mar 2012 #33
Why don't you work on narrowing it for your fellows, then, and see if they agree with you? nt MADem Mar 2012 #37
Nice one :) edhopper Mar 2012 #44
So fighting for equal pay for equal work is a religion? Silent3 Mar 2012 #72
I think religion is likely very individual to and for many people. MADem Mar 2012 #83
You expect that "fun" crap to impress? Silent3 Mar 2012 #85
I don't care if you are impressed or not. MADem Mar 2012 #87
When you try to stick people with a label they don't want... Silent3 Mar 2012 #89
No it isn't. It's expressing an opinion. Only someone with lack of, dare I say, faith, in their MADem Mar 2012 #99
It seems to bother you when atheists say... Silent3 Mar 2012 #107
It isn't true. I am not at all bothered! Not in the least. MADem Mar 2012 #108
I'm not name calling! Silent3 Mar 2012 #110
Excuse me, but your apparent belief… MrModerate Mar 2012 #90
Well, I am me, and you are you. MADem Mar 2012 #91
The rules for theological discourse *aren't* imaginary? MrModerate Mar 2012 #92
I'd say just the opposite. MADem Mar 2012 #101
I'm impressed by your doggedness . . . MrModerate Mar 2012 #116
Not necessarily, but in practice there are a lot of anti-monotheists calling themselves atheists... saras Mar 2012 #4
Well, edhopper Mar 2012 #9
In my experience, most are caught up in transcendent deities and don't even consider monism... saras Mar 2012 #58
I wish I knew what you were trying to say? edhopper Mar 2012 #59
So do I, actually. But my point is that none of us do yet...que sera, sera saras Mar 2012 #61
Thanks edhopper Mar 2012 #74
Why would you post something that you KNOW is flamebait? EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #6
It's from reason.com and a very well written piece, imo. cbayer Mar 2012 #8
I think he is getting at your apparent hypocrisy more than the actual OP. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #10
It's not well written. edhopper Mar 2012 #11
Reason.com? Isn't that a Koch Bros. libertarian site? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #12
I pointed it out... EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #14
I have never called for an end to contentious debate. I have called for civil debate. cbayer Mar 2012 #18
Isn't calling for civil debate the same as calling for the end to contentious debate? EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #20
I see contentious debate as heated or controversial, while an uncivil debate cbayer Mar 2012 #21
The problem is that both sides have different interpretations of "rude" and "personal" EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #25
There was a good thread in here recently about the term militant atheist. cbayer Mar 2012 #28
"Very well written?" Your standards have plummeted, then muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #22
Muriel, I did not say that I agreed with what she was saying, but I did enjoy reading cbayer Mar 2012 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author MrModerate Mar 2012 #117
Now that you know the bullshit that funds reason.com Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #29
This forum has never supported actual religious discussion. MADem Mar 2012 #38
While I agree with you for the most part, someone would need to take the cbayer Mar 2012 #41
There's nothing wrong with leaving this place as it is--a place where someone posts a religious MADem Mar 2012 #42
"they won't be convinced to shove off and leave the discussions be..." EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #43
There's no need to pee on every tree, is there? MADem Mar 2012 #45
Okay, so you're making an implicit request that we either EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #46
No, I'm not doing THAT, either. Jeez--love the way you're putting words in my mouth. MADem Mar 2012 #48
"Butt the fuck out" EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #49
Way to grab a phrase and deliberately take it out of context! Heckuva job, Brownie! MADem Mar 2012 #52
I never said that DU believers didn't deserve a safe-haven group EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #55
No, but you deliberately misrepresented a question and tried to suggest it was a demand. MADem Mar 2012 #57
I can see that atheists piss you off, but I'm not sure what I did to offend you EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #60
The only people swarming this thread with "Your shit sucks" and "That's wrong" and "I hate your MADem Mar 2012 #68
You wrote 546 words and still didn't answer my question EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2012 #70
Try reading what I wrote--you can, if you try real hard, figure it out. MADem Mar 2012 #78
Ah, by "shit" skepticscott Mar 2012 #65
There ya go--have no answer to the issue discussed, nitpick about a word instead! nt MADem Mar 2012 #66
I specifically responded to skepticscott Mar 2012 #71
No, you didn't. You took issue with a word. nt MADem Mar 2012 #79
I see you have nothing of substance left skepticscott Mar 2012 #82
Right backatcha. Look hard into that mirror now, and try not to be too sad. nt MADem Mar 2012 #84
Oh, please, please, please skepticscott Mar 2012 #93
Why don't you do it? You're the one pleading, here! nt MADem Mar 2012 #94
You're the one who's been ranting and raving skepticscott Mar 2012 #96
You apparently don't understand the difference between discussion and MADem Mar 2012 #100
Baloney skepticscott Mar 2012 #64
Those rooms are Faith Specific--there is no "Ecumenical" room. That is my point. MADem Mar 2012 #69
The room entitled skepticscott Mar 2012 #73
Yes, it IS exclusionary--if you are a Muslim, or a Jew. Or a Buddhist. Or a Zoroastrian. MADem Mar 2012 #80
Boy, you're determined to play the victim skepticscott Mar 2012 #86
It's not playing the victim to point out the obvious. MADem Mar 2012 #88
"why would atheists even want to post in a group entitled 'RELIGION?'" deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #95
A "stance on" religion? Or a religion, a system in opposition to Theism? MADem Mar 2012 #98
a lack of religion more specifically deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #102
Wow, don't go into prognostication as a vocation. MADem Mar 2012 #103
I'll be excusing myself now deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #104
No, I'm not. Really. MADem Mar 2012 #106
not buying it deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #114
Not selling anything. Have a nice day, now, and strive to be happy. nt MADem Mar 2012 #115
you know what? I think I will. deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #123
It's just a discussion board. MADem Mar 2012 #125
thanks again n/t deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #128
now where were we? deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #124
You were calling me an indecent bully because I didn't agree with you! MADem Mar 2012 #126
oh that's why deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #129
You didn't have to respond to my comments. MADem Mar 2012 #130
are you not merciful deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #131
Sheesh, not this again skepticscott Mar 2012 #97
You're just not taking the point I'm making. MADem Mar 2012 #105
Even if I don't have a RELIGION, which I don't, RELIGION still affects me daily. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #109
Please read what I wrote. I am not trying to stop you from discussing anything. MADem Mar 2012 #112
I did read it, my response is to a specific point you make Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #119
So, you ignored everything else I said to focus on that issue. MADem Mar 2012 #120
I don't get you. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #121
Well, see, I thought the point of your reply was all those other points--not the MADem Mar 2012 #122
this IS the "religion" forum, where people come specifically to discuss such things. deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #127
You offered no answer skepticscott Mar 2012 #111
I did, but you clearly didn't read it. MADem Mar 2012 #113
I wish someone would teach some people about vocabulary and religion. Loudmxr Mar 2012 #15
I think there are many theists who do not believe in all or most of the tenants in cbayer Mar 2012 #19
Doesn't stop people from trying to make a buck, though... MADem Mar 2012 #39
Defining a religion DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #16
Religious Belief Defined -- by the IRS, who are the last word in these matters FarCenter Mar 2012 #23
What do the Inland Revenue and the European tax agencies say, though? MADem Mar 2012 #40
UK definition muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #51
Well, in Germany, Scientology isn't a religion! To each his or her own, I suppose...! MADem Mar 2012 #56
I am an atheist, but not necessarily an agnostic longship Mar 2012 #24
Atheism is a religion? man4allcats Mar 2012 #30
I thought it was a skepticscott Mar 2012 #63
OK, so now I've read Kennedy's article and one thing is clear . . . MrModerate Mar 2012 #118
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