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Goblinmonger

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19. But are you a heathen

Reply to mr blur (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 14, 2012, 10:30 AM

Mar 2012

Because I qualified it.

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What is happening in the religious world? [View all] Thats my opinion Mar 2012 OP

All religion that relies on faith is irrational, which means all of it. Warpy Mar 2012 #1

Rationality can be a very broad term or a very narrow one. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #23

"more later"? skepticscott Mar 2012 #71

I didn't address "be patient" to you. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #73

I must have missed the rule skepticscott Mar 2012 #82

no...it depends on what you have faith in.. Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #76

If it's rational, it doesn't require faith. It requires proof Warpy Mar 2012 #83

I looked up what rational belief is and yes it requires evidence and/or reason but.. Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #84

That was written by a believer Warpy Mar 2012 #86

truth is facts exist but the human mind has its limits Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #97

If it is beyond human understanding, how can it be a fact? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #103

sure Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #104

So the fact itself is that we don't know. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #105

all I'm saying is Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #107

I agree. Not everything makes sense...yet. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #108

I agree Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #109

Interesting. Can we continue this conversation? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #110

only if god was a material entity... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #111

So if god is just some intangible force, like love or happiness... cleanhippie Mar 2012 #112

Devotion, worship and prayer are not for the benefit of "God" GliderGuider Mar 2012 #121

I'm not saying they are forces of nature.. Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #123

I'm ok with that. I think we're on the same page. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #133

The concept of God being all powerful and capable of exerting energy... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #136

The problem isn't what you think it is. laconicsax Mar 2012 #2

But you never answer the question of what it is that is on the horizon. Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #3

Be patient. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #24

As a catholic I don't even recognize the church I grew up in. I still have my faith and beliefs but southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #4

So what is left of your faith? Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #25

Well I was born a catholic and I could never change that. I just have my personal relationship southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #33

Well, respect to you for your caring actions. But, mr blur Mar 2012 #49

My father-in-law never ever went to church. But I know he was a man of faith. I never heard him southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #50

I was not attacking you - mr blur Mar 2012 #57

Wait, wait. I wasn't trying to attack you. I think your a very thoughtful person. I am southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #59

Not offended, truly, and glad you weren't either. mr blur Mar 2012 #77

Well good you have a nice day too. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #81

Instead of trying to convert her to your way, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #53

You know, your arrogance can be breathtaking. mr blur Mar 2012 #58

I have been asked a series of interesting questions for which there ares no simple answers. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #60

Oh boo-fing-hoo. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #63

Here is what looks like a--"why don't you just give up on religion" evangelistic message Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #61

Why can't you just answer that simple question? cleanhippie Mar 2012 #64

Wrong, as you are perfectly aware. mr blur Mar 2012 #79

Keep on doing the good things you are about. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #52

Well who knows. God plants us where he wants us to bloom, right? LOL. I alway thought southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #69

Plotting a new course for religions like Xianity is akin to stopbush Mar 2012 #5

Who are you trying to convert--and why? I thought that was out of bounds. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #54

If so, then this whole discussion board is out of bounds. trotsky Mar 2012 #56

If I ever infer that Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #62

You've never apologized for the slam that started it all. trotsky Mar 2012 #90

You do try skepticscott Mar 2012 #72

that's not an evangelistdic message calling me or someone to change their mind and Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #65

Plotting a new course for religions like Xianity is akin to... AlbertCat Mar 2012 #66

because you offer no way of knowing it is make believe and secondly... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #78

Why do you always skepticscott Mar 2012 #6

The ones who are the most sensitive and defensive about their past are atheists. humblebum Mar 2012 #7

Irrelevant non-response skepticscott Mar 2012 #9

You're projecting again. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #14

You have several frames here that are annoying to the atheist... rexcat Mar 2012 #8

Fait or confidence per se tama Mar 2012 #10

As far as irrational... rexcat Mar 2012 #16

Do you accept number theory? tama Mar 2012 #30

Well... rexcat Mar 2012 #37

Re Sagan quote tama Mar 2012 #48

I think skepticscott has got it right... rexcat Mar 2012 #51

Sadly tama Mar 2012 #70

No... rexcat Mar 2012 #75

OK tama Mar 2012 #88

You have made some good points... rexcat Mar 2012 #99

Sorry, fail skepticscott Mar 2012 #39

Fair enough tama Mar 2012 #46

Please offere more of a description of the arational. nt Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #44

Just a word play :) tama Mar 2012 #47

I see kindness Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #27

Religion is not a precurser to kindness... rexcat Mar 2012 #34

Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #36

The problem that you repeatedly seem to show, mr blur Mar 2012 #11

i never said and don't believe that Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #28

A few questions (none of them the evil "gotcha" variety)... trotsky Mar 2012 #12

Try this. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #22

Why is the personal, omnipotent God edhopper Mar 2012 #26

For nth time tama Mar 2012 #32

true edhopper Mar 2012 #42

You do not speak for all atheists Starboard Tack Mar 2012 #41

You are right edhopper Mar 2012 #43

undefined, undetectable "energy" AlbertCat Mar 2012 #67

! edhopper Mar 2012 #68

Burnin' down the house.... AlbertCat Mar 2012 #87

AFAIK tama Mar 2012 #89

Because it's not edhopper Mar 2012 #93

Well, tama Mar 2012 #94

It is also not a license to edhopper Mar 2012 #115

There is need, tama Mar 2012 #116

You've also suggested skepticscott Mar 2012 #31

So basically you're saying that: trotsky Mar 2012 #40

To clarify Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #45

... trotsky Mar 2012 #55

But if there is a part of the church moving in the direction I suggest, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #85

Hooray! trotsky Mar 2012 #91

They also make life hell for me, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #95

You just contradicted yourself again. trotsky Mar 2012 #98

+1 (nt) mr blur Mar 2012 #113

I am right in the middle of the struggle between liberal Christians and the fundamentalists, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #114

No, you're not skepticscott Mar 2012 #117

Oh, you are? trotsky Mar 2012 #118

And yet again skepticscott Mar 2012 #13

Well, if you wouldn't be posting such "gotcha" stuff Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #15

You had better watch out... rexcat Mar 2012 #17

Or with the average level skepticscott Mar 2012 #29

Now I'm offended! mr blur Mar 2012 #18

But are you a heathen Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #19

Ah, a "Gotcha" post! mr blur Mar 2012 #38

Every repsonse to the OP... rexcat Mar 2012 #20

What is happening in the religious world? It is devouring itself, that is what is happening. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #21

I approach it the other way... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #80

this remindms me of a quote deacon_sephiroth Mar 2012 #35

Christian mainstream theology(Christ resurrection, omnipotence) isn't primitive Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #74

The god of the Bible is largely a vengeful, murderous a-hole. Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #100

some Christian fundies only enforce OT views... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #102

I'm asking myself the same question. jeepnstein Mar 2012 #92

I probably will agree with you, Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #96

Ken Hamm, for starters. jeepnstein Mar 2012 #101

young earth creationism (Ham's take) Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #106

So why aren't you on creationist sites trying to make your case? trotsky Mar 2012 #119

How do you know he isn't? tama Mar 2012 #122

You've read his OPs Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #126

Plus, one doesn't last very long, mr blur Mar 2012 #128

Could it be tama Mar 2012 #132

I've spent half a lifetime challenging them. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #129

So you gave up? trotsky Mar 2012 #134

I bet I could find a post from a creationist Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #120

it isn't making religion irrelevant...it is showing its true power and meaning... Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #124

Isn't it weird that the true power and meaning looks Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #125

what do you mean...what do you think the true power and meaning is? Green_Lantern Mar 2012 #127

Maybe you don't--and that's OK. Just don't make your "we" universal nt Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #130

Kind of like you do with your theology Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #131

Because you lack a deep understanding of theology. cleanhippie Mar 2012 #135

Strange! Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #137

Because you are one leading the charge here Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #138

Come on. You don't have the foggiest idea what I do to confront creationists. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #139

A goodly number of posts here skepticscott Mar 2012 #140

Because you've never told us what you do. trotsky Mar 2012 #141

Creationists here and elsewhere Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #142

You still haven't told us what you do to combat them. trotsky Mar 2012 #143

If I mentioned what I have written, it would bring down you know what. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #144

No, I'm asking you where you are confronting the creationists and fundies and how. trotsky Mar 2012 #145

I don't think you really want to know. Thats my opinion Mar 2012 #146

Books don't matter. trotsky Mar 2012 #147

The "substance" of your posts has been skepticscott Mar 2012 #148