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In reply to the discussion: Religion a mental illness? [View all]hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)157. You understand I and others find this insulting.
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This subject was covered at length recently on DU;a dozen quotes from shrinks say it IS "delusion"
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#128
Let people decide for themselves. See the professional quote on post # 153
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#169
This article 1) is in a professional psych journal 2)by the working head of a major LA psych clinic;
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#218
"Consensus" can be herd rule. The article is by a respected practitioner and Med. school teacher
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#222
I think all the believers I know are very stable and sane people including myself.
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#6
So how does "insanity" and "mental illness" differ, in your opinion
Fortinbras Armstrong
May 2014
#255
However, he seemed to be saying is that insanity and mental illness are wholly different
Fortinbras Armstrong
May 2014
#277
You know, when certain people around here start talking about psychiatric disorders,
cbayer
May 2014
#270
So the Bible is offensive, when it says religion, worship, is often "delusion"?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#130
Specifically it is used to warn about false ideas, often, specifically in religion
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#226
BG asked "So the Bible is offensive, when it says religion, worship, is often "delusion"?"
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#233
They call false gods, idolatries and the ideas of false prophets delusions
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#239
? Lots of preachers, and most of the prophets, tell us that God "spoke" to them
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#127
Simple logic. Dr. Pierre & others suggested religious delusion can become normative/accepted
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#131
And there you go, right into personal attack instead of discussing the issue.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#17
I have the person who said them on ignore, so linking directly would be tricky.
trotsky
Apr 2014
#212
Lack evidence isn't why religious belief is not considered by the APA to be delusional
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2014
#14
So the exact same belief is psychotic delusion in one person and normal in another.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#18
So the RCC office of excorcism is staffed by what sort of people exactly?
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#48
So the gullible highly educated priest who terrorizes a child with an exorcism
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#52
Just to confirm - all believers are dishonest and/or thoughtless in your worldview? nt
el_bryanto
Apr 2014
#179
Consider cults. Where lots of stupid people believe the same shit. Partly social; partly psychology
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#134
Religious delusion is already considered to be pathological by the APA
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2014
#115
Evidence: we cited a half dozen psychiatrists including Freud, saying "all religion is delusion"
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#132
Religious groups often exclude those who differ. By shunning; faction; censorship; execution
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#173
That's called "shunning" and "Denial." Quite common in religious communities
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#189
her theory that all adults make a choice about religious belief is not compelling.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#15
Maybe it's not the deity's job to show himself/herself/itself to YOU.
Common Sense Party
Apr 2014
#51
Who has persevered in the face of contrary facts, more than Christians? 2,000 years of perseverance
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#137
It must be so annoying when somebody starts a discussion you don't approve of.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#47
It's a hateful tactic born of privilege and nourished in the self-perception of rationality.
rug
Apr 2014
#44
Do you feel that labelling any delusion as mental illness is wrong, or a hateful tactic?
phil89
Apr 2014
#54
The bible was written by people with mental illness. Obsession with numbers, cleanliness, rituals,
phil89
Apr 2014
#66
So when they saw God and demons, and talked to them? And saw giant miracles? That's all OK with you?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#139
Some things in religion are allegorical ... meaning not entirely, literally true
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#156
God often used the word "delusion" to warn about false things in religion. Was God insulting people
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#175
I think Gods motive was to correct bad things in religion; that is also my motive
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#188
Many things are wrong. But first? The belief in literal physical miracles, "all" we "ask."
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#192
Well I am not going to give up my belief in the miracles of the bible because it offends or bothers
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#194
Yet you want others to give up certain behaviors because they offend or bother you.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Apr 2014
#203
Why are you telling other poster's that their beliefs are insulting or offensive if not because you
Dark n Stormy Knight
Apr 2014
#214
It's common sense. And I can cite a source if you like, he makes the argument quite well.
phil89
Apr 2014
#75
Sorry, psychiatry, psychology and the diagnosis and treatment of psychiatric disorders
cbayer
Apr 2014
#82
Is Ms. cbayer a professional psychologist? There are many quoted here who contradict her.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#140
So when the ancients saw God and the devil, and talking snakes,we cannot be sure anything was wrong?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#141
I can't speak for rug but considering the attitude displayed in this thread towards
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#64
I would like to be respected and not called things like ill or deluded. NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#77
well look, I'm asking for you to share your thoughts, and I'm listening respectfully....
mike_c
Apr 2014
#84
Respectfully? calling people who are religious deluded or socially ill is respectful?
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#86
please-- tell it to the dead, the maimed, the dispossessed, and the disenfranchised....
mike_c
Apr 2014
#95
Though various religions often go to war with each other, over religion?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#144
But clearly most religious people here are even explicitly uncomfortable with it....
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#150
Nobody is claiming anything much more than "some religious beliefs are delusions".
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#53
Though you are not saying it, Freud said "all religion is delusion"; Dr. Pierre, Journ. Psych. Prac.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#153
It depends (and in my opinion), on how far from reality your religion takes you.
PDJane
Apr 2014
#186
So, why did you editorialize her title line and leave out the phrase including the word "No"?
cbayer
Apr 2014
#198
Took it straight from YouTube where I am subscribed to her, she has 96K subscribers
snooper2
Apr 2014
#211
Were you aware that DU covered essentially this same subject very recently?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#224