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In reply to the discussion: Religion a mental illness? [View all]snooper2
(30,151 posts)3. no text I don't think she transcribes her videos
basically she explains how it is stupid for atheists to use the "mental illness" swipe at the religious among us and instead if anything it is a social illness (how religion negatively affects society)
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This subject was covered at length recently on DU;a dozen quotes from shrinks say it IS "delusion"
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#128
Let people decide for themselves. See the professional quote on post # 153
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#169
This article 1) is in a professional psych journal 2)by the working head of a major LA psych clinic;
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#218
"Consensus" can be herd rule. The article is by a respected practitioner and Med. school teacher
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#222
I think all the believers I know are very stable and sane people including myself.
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#6
So how does "insanity" and "mental illness" differ, in your opinion
Fortinbras Armstrong
May 2014
#255
However, he seemed to be saying is that insanity and mental illness are wholly different
Fortinbras Armstrong
May 2014
#277
You know, when certain people around here start talking about psychiatric disorders,
cbayer
May 2014
#270
So the Bible is offensive, when it says religion, worship, is often "delusion"?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#130
Specifically it is used to warn about false ideas, often, specifically in religion
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#226
BG asked "So the Bible is offensive, when it says religion, worship, is often "delusion"?"
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#233
They call false gods, idolatries and the ideas of false prophets delusions
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#239
? Lots of preachers, and most of the prophets, tell us that God "spoke" to them
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#127
Simple logic. Dr. Pierre & others suggested religious delusion can become normative/accepted
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#131
And there you go, right into personal attack instead of discussing the issue.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#17
I have the person who said them on ignore, so linking directly would be tricky.
trotsky
Apr 2014
#212
Lack evidence isn't why religious belief is not considered by the APA to be delusional
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2014
#14
So the exact same belief is psychotic delusion in one person and normal in another.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#18
So the RCC office of excorcism is staffed by what sort of people exactly?
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#48
So the gullible highly educated priest who terrorizes a child with an exorcism
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#52
Just to confirm - all believers are dishonest and/or thoughtless in your worldview? nt
el_bryanto
Apr 2014
#179
Consider cults. Where lots of stupid people believe the same shit. Partly social; partly psychology
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#134
Religious delusion is already considered to be pathological by the APA
Act_of_Reparation
Apr 2014
#115
Evidence: we cited a half dozen psychiatrists including Freud, saying "all religion is delusion"
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#132
Religious groups often exclude those who differ. By shunning; faction; censorship; execution
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#173
That's called "shunning" and "Denial." Quite common in religious communities
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#189
her theory that all adults make a choice about religious belief is not compelling.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#15
Maybe it's not the deity's job to show himself/herself/itself to YOU.
Common Sense Party
Apr 2014
#51
Who has persevered in the face of contrary facts, more than Christians? 2,000 years of perseverance
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#137
It must be so annoying when somebody starts a discussion you don't approve of.
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#47
It's a hateful tactic born of privilege and nourished in the self-perception of rationality.
rug
Apr 2014
#44
Do you feel that labelling any delusion as mental illness is wrong, or a hateful tactic?
phil89
Apr 2014
#54
The bible was written by people with mental illness. Obsession with numbers, cleanliness, rituals,
phil89
Apr 2014
#66
So when they saw God and demons, and talked to them? And saw giant miracles? That's all OK with you?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#139
Some things in religion are allegorical ... meaning not entirely, literally true
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#156
God often used the word "delusion" to warn about false things in religion. Was God insulting people
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#175
I think Gods motive was to correct bad things in religion; that is also my motive
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#188
Many things are wrong. But first? The belief in literal physical miracles, "all" we "ask."
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#192
Well I am not going to give up my belief in the miracles of the bible because it offends or bothers
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#194
Yet you want others to give up certain behaviors because they offend or bother you.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Apr 2014
#203
Why are you telling other poster's that their beliefs are insulting or offensive if not because you
Dark n Stormy Knight
Apr 2014
#214
It's common sense. And I can cite a source if you like, he makes the argument quite well.
phil89
Apr 2014
#75
Sorry, psychiatry, psychology and the diagnosis and treatment of psychiatric disorders
cbayer
Apr 2014
#82
Is Ms. cbayer a professional psychologist? There are many quoted here who contradict her.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#140
So when the ancients saw God and the devil, and talking snakes,we cannot be sure anything was wrong?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#141
I can't speak for rug but considering the attitude displayed in this thread towards
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#64
I would like to be respected and not called things like ill or deluded. NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK.
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#77
well look, I'm asking for you to share your thoughts, and I'm listening respectfully....
mike_c
Apr 2014
#84
Respectfully? calling people who are religious deluded or socially ill is respectful?
hrmjustin
Apr 2014
#86
please-- tell it to the dead, the maimed, the dispossessed, and the disenfranchised....
mike_c
Apr 2014
#95
Though various religions often go to war with each other, over religion?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#144
But clearly most religious people here are even explicitly uncomfortable with it....
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#150
Nobody is claiming anything much more than "some religious beliefs are delusions".
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2014
#53
Though you are not saying it, Freud said "all religion is delusion"; Dr. Pierre, Journ. Psych. Prac.
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#153
It depends (and in my opinion), on how far from reality your religion takes you.
PDJane
Apr 2014
#186
So, why did you editorialize her title line and leave out the phrase including the word "No"?
cbayer
Apr 2014
#198
Took it straight from YouTube where I am subscribed to her, she has 96K subscribers
snooper2
Apr 2014
#211
Were you aware that DU covered essentially this same subject very recently?
Brettongarcia
Apr 2014
#224