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Starry Messenger

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27. In the film "Roger and Me", Michael Moore
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jul 2015

devoted a lot of time showing that offshoring and the decline of unionism left people in such despair that there was a realignment in white blue collar workers toward the Christian Right. This was part of the creation of the White Male Voter, and the Reagan revolution.

Even now, with some cautious economic improvement, this voter is entrenched in reactionary voting patterns. Saying that these folks are going to jump back into the New Deal coalition is to ignore a lot of material developments since then. A lot of money has gone into convincing these voters that their interests are aligned with the wealthy, and that's how they vote.

There are a lot of ultra-leftists who think the Republicans are a nebulous opponent and that it is actually liberals, unions, people of color, etc. who are the ones really stopping progress in this country by, in their estimation, trying to wrest concessions from capitalism. Honestly, that makes them sound a lot like Republicans to me, even though they come from another angle of ideology.

We are going to need a huge coalition to keep striking back at the ultra-right, which still wields a lot of power. A Socialist who eschews working with Democrats and the traditional Democratic coalition is just a hobbyist, in my estimation. It's easy to stick your nose in the air if your bacon isn't in the fire.

The White Male Union Voter 2016 [View all] JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 OP
Very good point. Not sure why they continue to go onecaliberal Jun 2015 #1
I am a white male union worker. Member of upaloopa Jun 2015 #2
Thank you upaloopa JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #3
My nephew is a member of the IAFF (International Association of Firefighters) greatauntoftriplets Jun 2015 #4
If there were ever a group of people who didn't vote as one gollygee Jun 2015 #5
I am too JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #6
not very far noiretextatique Jun 2015 #7
I think a white male union voter who is already Democratic JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #13
The candidate who gets my vote will address black lives matter. lovemydog Jun 2015 #8
Speaking as a white female union member Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #9
I just saw your post in the other thread where you identified yourself as a "white socialist union Number23 Jun 2015 #10
Good questions! Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #14
Chris Hayes calls it the revolt of the upper middle class... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #18
I agree with Hayes Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #19
Going back to 1976 there has always been a schism between traditional and non traditional Democrats DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #20
"African American and Latino Democrats gravitate to the "establishment" candidate." Number23 Jun 2015 #22
A half a loaf is better than none... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #24
Smart and I love you all for it! Cha Jul 2015 #29
Thanks for the background, that makes sense. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #23
I've had that same sense BainsBane Jul 2015 #36
I learned a long time ago that there are lots of people on DU that love to sing the "I'm a liberal" Number23 Jun 2015 #21
It's so stupid and cruel. Starry Messenger Jun 2015 #25
+1. Is all I have to give to this excellent thread and your words. I have left Socialism© where freshwest Jul 2015 #26
In the film "Roger and Me", Michael Moore Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #27
"I learned a long time ago that there are lots of people on DU that love to sing the "I'm a liberal" Cha Jul 2015 #30
Sub-cultures are inherently self-radicalizing... Act_of_Reparation Jul 2015 #32
I co-sign every word of this post. Every single word. Number23 Jul 2015 #33
My opinion is that their own disenchantment with the party BainsBane Jul 2015 #34
Absolutely agree. Which makes ActofReparations' point that they are the flip side of their cousins Number23 Jul 2015 #35
i think Jim Webb would probably do well among that group JI7 Jun 2015 #11
ITA JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #12
In order to get the nomination he would have to take positions that would alienate him ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #17
K&R for taking on a tough subject, JAG. n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #15
Thanks fresh JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #16
So many white males lean libertarian ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #28
The African American Voters have been carrying so much Water for Democratic Candidates, Gen! Cha Jul 2015 #31
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