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REACTIVATED IN CT

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6. These were in a daily newsletter I get at work
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 02:11 PM
Apr 2012
http://www.bondbuyer.com/issues/121_77/ravitch-brodsky-status-pension-obligations-1038831-1.html


Richard Ravitch and Richard Brodsky have experience with governmental fiscal trouble. Cities, counties and states continue to struggle with unfunded pension liabilities, prompting the question of whether pension obligations represent debt or values, a debate the pair recently engaged in.

“I don’t think pension benefits are a debt,” said Brodsky, a former New York State Assemblyman from New York City’s Westchester County suburbs. “We have to distinguish between debt and social and legal obligations we have to fill. It’s a complicated world out there. Who are you going to hit and who’s going to suffer?”

Brodsky, and other prominent New York leaders, including Ravitch, a former lieutenant governor, debated pensions, bankruptcy and other facets of municipal distress last week at the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law’s Samuel & Ronnie Heyman Center on Corporate Governance.



http://www.clevelandfed.org/Forefront/2012/winter/ff_2012_winter_10.cfm

Apparently public pension benefits are protected in some states:


"In at least 27 states, pension members' past and future accruals are protected, but to different degrees ... [thereby complicating] the task of modifying current members' pension plans. These states treat public pension plans as contracts that must conform to constitutional, statutory, or common law (the last of these was developed through court decisions interpreting statutes or constitutions)." (Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland)
So many sad tales lately [View all] REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 OP
Sorry to hear MrYikes Apr 2012 #1
Here are a couple of stories REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 #2
Hmmm MrYikes Apr 2012 #3
We have this prolem in CT too due to the Repuke admins we have REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 #4
These were in a daily newsletter I get at work REACTIVATED IN CT Apr 2012 #6
Both those situations are sad.... Little Star Apr 2012 #5
My pensions... murphyj87 Apr 2012 #7
The more we learn about Canada, the better it sounds, but MrYikes Apr 2012 #8
and we have to add "u"s murphyj87 Apr 2012 #9
Maybe MrYikes Apr 2012 #10
a minor point perhaps but all Eskimos are not Inuit. mysuzuki2 Jul 2012 #12
What organizations help elderly folks in these situations? Beartracks Jun 2012 #11
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