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Pholus

(4,062 posts)
87. Not "buying it" is irrelevant.
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:50 PM
Dec 2012

1) You are ignorant of what the CDC does and the range of talent and the types of people who work for them. Before you spout nonsense again and waste someone else's time, read this and learn something for a change:

http://www.cdc.gov/employment/menu_topjobs.html

2) Burden is on you -- tell how the definition I quoted before PRECLUDES some in-the-NRA-pocket congressman from classifying ANYTHING they don't like coming out of the CDC as political lobbying. Including a mere statement of numbers. Seeing how the tiniest factoid might "influence" a decision that rule is a baldfaced politically motivated muzzle, just one you happen to like so you see nothing wrong with it. By the way, appeals to expertise are irrelevant here -- you don't have to be a lawyer, you merely need to know how to read. Are you pleading ignorance on that?

3) Given that the "NIJ grants under Carter" pass some test of yours as solid research, we can safely conclude this entire thread PROVES that you're happy with research that backs up your preconceived notion and consider things you don't like to be "ideological" and untrustworthy. In other words, you are a living example of "confirmation bias:"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

As such, you really have nothing worthwhile to add to a discussion. Your mind is made up, it will not change.

Add to that, you hate free scientific inquiry of course. Unless it says what you want it to. Of course, then it isn't "free" is it?

I think you left out the bodies of twenty dead children. villager Dec 2012 #1
Many more children die each year due to gun violence. LAGC Dec 2012 #2
The dynamics, with this particular slaughter, are different this time. villager Dec 2012 #30
Indeed. We shall see. LAGC Dec 2012 #34
The rest of the story qkvhj Dec 2012 #77
3 words- THE GREAT EQUALIZER...MIKE BLOOMBERG. He is going to be in the NRA face in 2014/2016 graham4anything Dec 2012 #3
He is a repuke 1%er who will soon be consigned to the ash heap of punditry ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #24
A great american patriot? "Stop and frisk" ring a bell? n/t beevul Dec 2012 #37
The Fourth Amendment, like the Second, is a speedbump as far as Bloomie is concerned. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #41
I know right! nt Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #76
Great post sarisataka Dec 2012 #40
Uhhhh... DU hates him too. -..__... Dec 2012 #49
Not to mention the OWS brutality n/t krispos42 Dec 2012 #73
The mighty patriot ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #89
intimidation and threats by america's gun owners. the bodies pile up daily nt msongs Dec 2012 #4
I Think Your Musings Are An Attempt At Wish Fulfillment cantbeserious Dec 2012 #5
I don't want to see Republicans make gains in 2014. LAGC Dec 2012 #6
Dead Children Or Political Power We Know Where You Stand cantbeserious Dec 2012 #10
If I really thought new gun controls would prevent mass-murder, I'd be the first to sign up. LAGC Dec 2012 #13
only 100% guns out of the street(but remaining in homes) can keep the streets safe graham4anything Dec 2012 #38
Have you explained that to the criminals and gang members... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #90
Why are you so worried about the Mafia? graham4anything Dec 2012 #91
Do you hear voices? holdencaufield Dec 2012 #92
I just assumed you meant the Mafia when you started babbling about gangs graham4anything Dec 2012 #93
I think they were referring to the modern day gangs. Glassunion Dec 2012 #94
There is an enormous Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #57
I really hope your nick is literal... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #25
Sometimes The Truth Hurts - Even Even More So When It Is Reality cantbeserious Dec 2012 #44
So you sacrifice the political power sir pball Dec 2012 #48
There will be new gun controls but ... squicked Dec 2012 #7
Well then... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #23
Who is 'they'? Jenoch Dec 2012 #96
It will be like last time I suspect Riftaxe Dec 2012 #8
For those interested Riftaxe Dec 2012 #9
Boys and their toys. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #11
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #12
"Adults." Like card-carrying "Men" perchance? Pholus Dec 2012 #14
Is that supposed to make sense? Riftaxe Dec 2012 #15
I just think gun advertisers know the minds of their customers. Pholus Dec 2012 #16
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #17
And the so-called "adult" goes straight for the anatomical joke Pholus Dec 2012 #19
Shit so your saying my hi karate means i am less then a man Riftaxe Dec 2012 #20
Guess it depends on the timbre of your voice as you say it. Pholus Dec 2012 #22
Hmmm, actually if you really are wearing Hi Karate, but I digress... Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #70
That image and everything behind it is what I would BAN! BrightKnight Dec 2012 #46
I take it you want to repeal the First Amendment? N/T GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #62
The NRA already gags free and open scientific inquiry, so why not? nt Pholus Dec 2012 #78
no they don't gejohnston Dec 2012 #79
Sadly they do. We all know why. Pholus Dec 2012 #81
the editorial is full of shit gejohnston Dec 2012 #82
So it is JUST like the NRA. Pholus Dec 2012 #83
MAIG and the NRA are both full of shit gejohnston Dec 2012 #84
The Anti-science position of the NRA is quite obvious: Pholus Dec 2012 #85
not buying it for a couple of reasons gejohnston Dec 2012 #86
Not "buying it" is irrelevant. Pholus Dec 2012 #87
I know how to read quite well gejohnston Dec 2012 #88
what a gross and condescending, passive/agressive thing to say. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #68
That is who these stupid guns are marketed at. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #69
What about women? Abq_Sarah Dec 2012 #95
Gun culture is overwhelmingly male. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #97
Dream on - the BACKLASH is here jpak Dec 2012 #18
You are predictable jpak Riftaxe Dec 2012 #21
And wishing you a Gun Free Day jpak Dec 2012 #26
Any day is a good start Riftaxe Dec 2012 #33
I'm certain there will be no EFFECTIVE action and the massacres will continue. We'll have to keep Dems to Win Dec 2012 #27
You do realize the trends are very much different? virginia mountainman Dec 2012 #28
Ohio **republicans** vote for those laws - and Gungeoneers cheer them. jpak Dec 2012 #32
Just as they cheer for the far-right policies of the NRA -- and have tried to make us think villager Dec 2012 #53
A big majority of Americans support 2A. School shootings can be reduced Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #29
Yes it would be far better to militarize all public spaces than to restrict in any way your access Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #31
toys? Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #45
wow. a couple of cops in a school. "militarized." wow. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #50
wow you and the NRA so dont get it wow. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #58
You don't want to get it: Some schools ALREADY have Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #63
Lane Tech in Chicago already has 2 armed Chicago cops there every day DonP Dec 2012 #64
Good point, for example columbine. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #65
Better armed, trustworthy staff than impractical prohibition... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #66
I hadn't noticed the huge number of massacres committed with full auto weapons. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #67
For CT it probably depends on town, Lurks Often Dec 2012 #71
Your approach is unreasonable and ineffective. krispos42 Dec 2012 #74
Tax guns and ammo to pay for that security jpak Dec 2012 #35
Unconstitutional. You want the equivalent of a poll tax.nt Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #52
Schoolchildren aren't criminals. They do not deserve to be put into prison every day. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #36
Children are already required by law to be in school... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #55
Yup. It took 100 years after Lincoln's 13th for LBJ to secure voting rights/civil rights graham4anything Dec 2012 #39
Another reason. Dr_Scholl Dec 2012 #42
The NRA will stop any attempt to limit the access to assault weapons for the killers. AlinPA Dec 2012 #43
Arms Manufacturers and Sales ralfy Dec 2012 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #51
Then lets get JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #54
Tax to inhibit an enumerated civil right? Won't fly. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #59
Read that - thanks JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #60
I didn't see smoking gejohnston Dec 2012 #61
Neither JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author BrightKnight Dec 2012 #75
I don't see Biden letting go of this. He will present a good plan. The Wielding Truth Dec 2012 #56
You're forgetting something. Another mass shooting is waiting in the wings. Loudly Dec 2012 #80
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