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Flyboy_451

(230 posts)
46. I think it is perhaps I that was not clear this time.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:40 PM
Dec 2012

While it would be possible for some guns to be easily reconfigured for other cartridges by their owners, I was speaking more to the reaction of gun and ammo manufacturers. If such a law were to be passed, manufacturers would have redesigned models and re-fit kits for older guns out to the public before the law even went into effect. Pistols that use rimmed cartridges, while not the common design, have been in production for many years. By imply redesigning many common rimless cartridges to incorporate a rim, and then slightly enlarging the breech face, the law becomes useless. I will be just like the '94 AWB. Legislation that does nothing.

All of the above assumes that the law wold be found to be constitutional. I have no confidence what so ever that it would. Our supreme court has ruled that the 2nd amendment protects an individual right, and that any regulation of that right must be narrowly tailored for a specific purpose and that it may not restrict the right to own weapons commonly in use. Any productive solution, IMHO, will be found through other means.

JW

Reloading equipment smacked down too. Loudly Dec 2012 #1
One of the strengths of the AR platform Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #2
True but would one have to do major work to change the caliber of a rifle? Kaleva Dec 2012 #4
Yes, wouldn't be worth it. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #6
With ARs, it can be as simple as pressing two pins. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #8
So one could change a .223 AR into a .308 AR in no time? Kaleva Dec 2012 #9
I believe so, but I'm not sure. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #11
If you have a complete upper assembly in .308 ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #15
Not quite. PavePusher Dec 2012 #16
Here's a list for standard AR lowers. ileus Dec 2012 #18
Ummm, don't you mean standard AR 'uppers'? PavePusher Dec 2012 #30
I think he means... krispos42 Dec 2012 #31
Ah, got it. Yeah, caffeine levels low. Mea Culpa. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #32
No sir pball Dec 2012 #34
Not really ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12
No. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #51
If it's not allowable to ban certain guns, then it won't be allowable to institute petronius Dec 2012 #3
The old AWB did ban certain guns by name. Kaleva Dec 2012 #7
Right, so go with that. Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but it sounds like you petronius Dec 2012 #10
Right, and you understand how ineffective that was I hope. Clames Dec 2012 #28
I don't support renewing the old AWB because I believe it had too many loopholes... Kaleva Dec 2012 #67
Only new ones, not existing ones or existing magazines ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #58
True. Kaleva Dec 2012 #68
Not an expert but... NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #5
All of the cartridges you mention have a significant following outside of AR and AK format ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13
The problem with attempting to ban the ammo for those weapons... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #14
I highly doubt Adam's mother would have been involved in the international black market. Kaleva Dec 2012 #20
If she was that fervent a collector and shooter... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #23
As far as i can tell, she was the type that followed the law. Kaleva Dec 2012 #25
That's a fair point. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #27
Added to all the above, all the calibers used in semi-autos.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #17
Semi-auto handgun ammo is used in bolt action rifles? Kaleva Dec 2012 #19
Pretty rare, but entirely possible. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #21
How about this for rifle cartridges? Kaleva Dec 2012 #22
Unconstitutional, but the effect would be significant. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #24
To get around the constitutional issue, they could be regulated as destructive devices currently are Kaleva Dec 2012 #26
That doesn't solve the unconstitutional issue. Clames Dec 2012 #29
Congress has the power to amend the definition to whaever it decides it to be. Kaleva Dec 2012 #33
You can think that. Clames Dec 2012 #36
Please do not take this as an attack. It is not Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #35
You are correct and I've revised my post. Please check below for technical accuracy. Kaleva Dec 2012 #37
I think you are still missing your mark Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #39
You missed what I said about the minimum case length. Kaleva Dec 2012 #41
I didn't miss it at all Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #42
Thanks for the correction. I didn't spot that. Kaleva Dec 2012 #44
I think it is perhaps I that was not clear this time. Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #46
The feeding issue seems to be the biggest problem to overcome Kaleva Dec 2012 #49
I have never had one of the Coonan Arms guns in my hand... Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #56
As semi-automatics have been around for a long time... Kaleva Dec 2012 #69
Please check your dimensions. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #53
My dimensions are correct Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #54
Then your sentence doesn't make sense. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #55
Hmm... Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #57
Here is the sentence that has me confused; GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #59
some countries do that gejohnston Dec 2012 #60
Now I understand the confusion Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #61
Sorry. I made a mistake in who I was responding to. N/T GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #66
I revised the deminsions in a later post. Kaleva Dec 2012 #62
Banning guns will increase their street value - Banning ammo will have the same result. Howzit Dec 2012 #38
I doubt the constitutional issues would be different Kennah Dec 2012 #40
Impossible to differentiate. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #43
I modified my proposal to regulate and not outright ban such cartridges. Kaleva Dec 2012 #45
So you can have it if you can build it yourself? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #47
One can just buy it too. Kaleva Dec 2012 #48
A rough draft. Will revise later Kaleva Dec 2012 #50
Not a chance in hell of that passing. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #52
Why would an 18 year buy a rifle he couldn't get ammo for till he was 21? Kaleva Dec 2012 #63
An 18 year old is allowed to buy rifle ammo. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #64
An 18 year old could still buy certain rifle ammo with what I propose Kaleva Dec 2012 #65
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