Gun Control & RKBA

Howzit

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38. Banning guns will increase their street value - Banning ammo will have the same result.

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Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:08 AM

Dec 2012

Mexico bans guns and the US bans drugs - what do we have as a result?

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Instead of banning guns, how about banning the ammo for certain guns? [View all] Kaleva Dec 2012 OP

Reloading equipment smacked down too. Loudly Dec 2012 #1

One of the strengths of the AR platform Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #2

True but would one have to do major work to change the caliber of a rifle? Kaleva Dec 2012 #4

Yes, wouldn't be worth it. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #6

With ARs, it can be as simple as pressing two pins. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #8

So one could change a .223 AR into a .308 AR in no time? Kaleva Dec 2012 #9

I believe so, but I'm not sure. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #11

If you have a complete upper assembly in .308 ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #15

Not quite. PavePusher Dec 2012 #16

Here's a list for standard AR lowers. ileus Dec 2012 #18

Ummm, don't you mean standard AR 'uppers'? PavePusher Dec 2012 #30

I think he means... krispos42 Dec 2012 #31

Ah, got it. Yeah, caffeine levels low. Mea Culpa. n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #32

No sir pball Dec 2012 #34

Not really ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12

No. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #51

If it's not allowable to ban certain guns, then it won't be allowable to institute petronius Dec 2012 #3

The old AWB did ban certain guns by name. Kaleva Dec 2012 #7

Right, so go with that. Perhaps I misunderstood your post, but it sounds like you petronius Dec 2012 #10

Right, and you understand how ineffective that was I hope. Clames Dec 2012 #28

I don't support renewing the old AWB because I believe it had too many loopholes... Kaleva Dec 2012 #67

Only new ones, not existing ones or existing magazines ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #58

True. Kaleva Dec 2012 #68

Not an expert but... NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #5

All of the cartridges you mention have a significant following outside of AR and AK format ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #13

The problem with attempting to ban the ammo for those weapons... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #14

I highly doubt Adam's mother would have been involved in the international black market. Kaleva Dec 2012 #20

If she was that fervent a collector and shooter... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #23

As far as i can tell, she was the type that followed the law. Kaleva Dec 2012 #25

That's a fair point. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #27

Added to all the above, all the calibers used in semi-autos.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #17

Semi-auto handgun ammo is used in bolt action rifles? Kaleva Dec 2012 #19

Pretty rare, but entirely possible. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #21

How about this for rifle cartridges? Kaleva Dec 2012 #22

Unconstitutional, but the effect would be significant. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #24

To get around the constitutional issue, they could be regulated as destructive devices currently are Kaleva Dec 2012 #26

That doesn't solve the unconstitutional issue. Clames Dec 2012 #29

Congress has the power to amend the definition to whaever it decides it to be. Kaleva Dec 2012 #33

You can think that. Clames Dec 2012 #36

Please do not take this as an attack. It is not Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #35

You are correct and I've revised my post. Please check below for technical accuracy. Kaleva Dec 2012 #37

I think you are still missing your mark Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #39

You missed what I said about the minimum case length. Kaleva Dec 2012 #41

I didn't miss it at all Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #42

Thanks for the correction. I didn't spot that. Kaleva Dec 2012 #44

I think it is perhaps I that was not clear this time. Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #46

The feeding issue seems to be the biggest problem to overcome Kaleva Dec 2012 #49

I have never had one of the Coonan Arms guns in my hand... Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #56

As semi-automatics have been around for a long time... Kaleva Dec 2012 #69

Please check your dimensions. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #53

My dimensions are correct Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #54

Then your sentence doesn't make sense. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #55

Hmm... Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #57

Here is the sentence that has me confused; GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #59

some countries do that gejohnston Dec 2012 #60

Now I understand the confusion Flyboy_451 Dec 2012 #61

Sorry. I made a mistake in who I was responding to. N/T GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #66

I revised the deminsions in a later post. Kaleva Dec 2012 #62

Banning guns will increase their street value - Banning ammo will have the same result. Howzit Dec 2012 #38

I doubt the constitutional issues would be different Kennah Dec 2012 #40

Impossible to differentiate. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #43

I modified my proposal to regulate and not outright ban such cartridges. Kaleva Dec 2012 #45

So you can have it if you can build it yourself? AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #47

One can just buy it too. Kaleva Dec 2012 #48

A rough draft. Will revise later Kaleva Dec 2012 #50

Not a chance in hell of that passing. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #52

Why would an 18 year buy a rifle he couldn't get ammo for till he was 21? Kaleva Dec 2012 #63

An 18 year old is allowed to buy rifle ammo. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #64

An 18 year old could still buy certain rifle ammo with what I propose Kaleva Dec 2012 #65