Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

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24. the only people calling it a loophole is the Brady Campaign

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:20 AM

Dec 2012

the ATF isn't calling it a loophole as far as I can tell. There is a law to bust them. The ATF spokesman described people who were violating the Gun Control Act. These guys are going from state to state, selling as a business without an FFL. That is a blatant of the Gun Control Act on two different levels. Selling for profit, and interstate trade. I miss the loophole here. Maybe ATF doesn't have the people to follow these guys to prove their case, or just lazy. I don't know, it's pretty clear to me.
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#gca-unlicensed-transfer
Now, if unlicensed people are following a circuit outside of their state, where they would have good reason to believe they would be selling to someone from a different state than them, that is an easy conviction. It's clear to me.

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Please sign this petition on the White House site to sensibly reform gun laws, and pass it around. [View all] farminator3000 Dec 2012 OP

Please review this petition... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #1

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I reviewed yours. Clames Dec 2012 #5

the 40 pecent number is questionable gejohnston Dec 2012 #7

40% is probably a little low farminator3000 Dec 2012 #8

strange, that he authored an passed an amendment to gejohnston Dec 2012 #9

you have no idea what you are saying. have you heard of a LOOPHOLE? farminator3000 Dec 2012 #10

his problem is with the commerce clause not the NRA gejohnston Dec 2012 #12

the problem is the laws are too damn complicated and different in every state.and black marketing farminator3000 Dec 2012 #13

enforce current federal law gejohnston Dec 2012 #14

the loophole is IN THE FEDERAL LAW. they aren't breaking any law. they don't need a license farminator3000 Dec 2012 #17

GSGV is wrong about one thing gejohnston Dec 2012 #20

check again gejohnston Dec 2012 #21

but they can't be busted IF THERE IS NO LAW TO BUST THEM WITH farminator3000 Dec 2012 #23

the only people calling it a loophole is the Brady Campaign gejohnston Dec 2012 #24

Just one little correction: Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #27

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I could get a gun in London, UK gejohnston Dec 2012 #22

try not guessing and looking a few things up farminator3000 Dec 2012 #11

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