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Thats my opinion

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28. Are you saying thqt ll laws whbich inhibit my action are collectivisic.
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 10:53 PM
Dec 2012

I am prohibited from driving at 80mph down a city street. Is that a move to collectivism.
Most laws protect the society. I gather you feel that anything that makes a person subject to societal rules a move to collectivism.

You do realize that firearm dealers are already liscensed. Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #1
Thanks for the correction. Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #15
And it will still be avoided bobclark86 Dec 2012 #29
The real problem is in private sales particularly at gun shows. rdharma Feb 2013 #151
On you #1 (The reinstitution of the prohibition on the ownership of assault weapons) the AWB kelly1mm Dec 2012 #2
So that law needs to be clarified. Threwill be a bill before trhenext Congress to do just that. nt Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #16
Wrong. Clames Dec 2012 #33
You are not putting the cat back in the bag. Clames Dec 2012 #3
my firearms were not purchased to put holes in people. YllwFvr Dec 2012 #4
You are right. See my #16 Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #17
What I said--or intended, Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #19
You would make a better argument if... TxRider Jan 2013 #90
They are not strictly regulated. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #34
Pretty sure he meant assault rifles which are machine guns by law. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #36
Not sure what he meant. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #40
in the two recent cases, gejohnston Dec 2012 #42
No. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #44
call the ATF hotline. gejohnston Dec 2012 #45
Relying on me to call the ATF is proof that it is not "strictly regulated." nt. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #47
Interstate sales must go through an FFL ... Straw Man Dec 2012 #48
Not true. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #50
news to the folks at craigslist gejohnston Dec 2012 #51
Intrastate private sales are legal. Interstate private sales are illegal. hack89 Dec 2012 #60
Try reading the links. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #62
answers Yahoo? gejohnston Dec 2012 #63
Wrong. Clames Dec 2012 #64
Try reading the links. nt. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #66
Maybe the sale just has gone through nt Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #68
Intrastate sales are still a state issue hack89 Dec 2012 #67
It should not be left up to the states. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #70
Then change the Constitution. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #72
The Constitution doesn't say it must be left to the states. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #74
Actually it does hack89 Dec 2012 #75
nope. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #76
Does the Amendment grant the Congress regulatory power over internal policing? Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #77
Internal policing? OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #80
they enforce only federal laws gejohnston Dec 2012 #82
It has nothing to do with the 2A hack89 Dec 2012 #78
Wow. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #79
the background checks are only gejohnston Dec 2012 #81
Yes, because the federal government has not chosen to go farther, which is exactly the point OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #83
and you are not only pushing an agenda? gejohnston Dec 2012 #84
Again: proof that you fail to read posts! OrwellwasRight Jan 2013 #85
Then how do you avoid ICC limitations on fed powers? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #159
there are virtually no limits OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #161
Can they regulate my selling of a Trinitron T.V. to a neighbor? Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #174
Interestingly enough--maybe they could if they wanted to. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #175
Perhaps you didn't know before ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #86
Your name says it all. nt. OrwellwasRight Jan 2013 #87
If you're referring to the logical fallacy ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #88
I suggest you do some research. OrwellwasRight Jan 2013 #96
I know what it is. Straw Man Jan 2013 #98
If the shoe fits . . . nt. OrwellwasRight Jan 2013 #99
If ... Straw Man Jan 2013 #103
Go right to the source. Kezzy604 Jan 2013 #93
I don't have questions. OrwellwasRight Jan 2013 #97
You probably shouldn't admit... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #59
That's a lie OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #65
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #91
That refers to the fact that OrwellwasRight Jan 2013 #95
You claimed first hand knowledge of someone committing a felony. Ashgrey77 Jan 2013 #105
No, I claim to know about a friend who said he bought a gun with no background check or registration OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #106
assault rifles YllwFvr Dec 2012 #69
Only if it goes in the mail. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #71
You continue to misinform. Straw Man Jan 2013 #104
You do. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #107
You missed this part. Straw Man Feb 2013 #108
And you missed this part OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #110
"Interstate" sales? Remember? Straw Man Feb 2013 #111
And again as I have already stated OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #112
None of that is relevant. Straw Man Feb 2013 #113
For the record YOU revived it after I said it was done. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #114
Nope. More misinformation. Straw Man Feb 2013 #115
Nope. You responded after I said done. You had to get the last word. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #116
"Said done"? What does that mean? Straw Man Feb 2013 #117
No, we are having a discussion in which OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #118
Wrong again. Straw Man Feb 2013 #119
Wrong again and still. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #125
Bullying? Straw Man Feb 2013 #137
No, the problem is people can buy gins in bedrooms, on the internet, at gun shows, and from the OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #138
That was not the issue ... Straw Man Feb 2013 #139
That was ALWAYS the issue. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #140
The issue was interstate sales Straw Man Feb 2013 #142
My information was not wrong. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #143
It most certainly was wrong. Straw Man Feb 2013 #147
THE GUN SHOW "LOOPHOLE" OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #148
No such "loophole" for interstate sales. Straw Man Feb 2013 #149
Gun. Show. Loophole. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #150
Not. For. Interstate. Sales. Straw Man Feb 2013 #152
You seem to be impervious to facts. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #153
Irrelevance and falsehood. Straw Man Feb 2013 #154
Why don't you try reading what I have been saying post after post? OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #155
That is not what we are discussing. Straw Man Feb 2013 #156
That is what I am discussing. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #157
I repeat. Straw Man Feb 2013 #164
Read this post. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #165
Confirmed: people break the law. Straw Man Feb 2013 #171
Without any enforcement, OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #177
Correct. Straw Man Feb 2013 #184
You can't enforce it as is. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #185
Arguable. Straw Man Feb 2013 #192
Yes, therefore unenforceable unless you track the guns themselves. nt. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #193
Not to mention you are wrong about background checks. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #158
My experiences at gun shows... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #160
In Gonzalez, OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #162
Before you celebrate, I support universal checks. I'm concerned Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #173
Well I support both national registration and universal checks. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #176
I never said they did. Straw Man Feb 2013 #163
It is not dishonest. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #166
Laws are broken, yes. Straw Man Feb 2013 #170
Try using logic OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #167
Logic. Straw Man Feb 2013 #169
Straw, man iiibbb Feb 2013 #172
That's why it is called a loophole. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #178
You're just wrong, flat-out wrong. Straw Man Feb 2013 #182
No one places themselves in legal jeopardy. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #187
What people call it is irrelevant. Straw Man Feb 2013 #189
His last post was JAN 21. You posted TODAY, FEB 9. Thats nearly 3 WEEKS later! cleanhippie Feb 2013 #126
yeh, cuz i just got back to DU OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #128
So why the need to try and call him out for "having to have the last word"? cleanhippie Feb 2013 #129
1) His post was Jan 21 to mine made Dec19 OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #130
This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Feb 2013 #131
Yes, and then 3 weeks went by before you responded. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #132
Obviously. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #133
If you found insult in my posts, you need to reevaluate your sensitivty level. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #134
Or you need to reevaluate OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #135
Ok, thank you for your suggestion. cleanhippie Feb 2013 #136
If you recall ... Straw Man Feb 2013 #141
Not, not when it took you 4 weeks. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #180
As long as you keep misreading the law ... Straw Man Feb 2013 #183
As long as you keep misrepresenting the law OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #186
I have misrepresented nothing. Straw Man Feb 2013 #191
High level discourse iiibbb Feb 2013 #168
It's very simple, really. Straw Man Feb 2013 #181
Of course I haven't. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #188
Right. Straw Man Feb 2013 #190
Right, so no one is tracking, OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #194
Which is illegal, which he has been saying over and over iiibbb Feb 2013 #195
Which is illegal not to be able to track guns? OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #198
What? Straw Man Feb 2013 #203
Wrong. Again. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #205
Really? Straw Man Feb 2013 #208
Really. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #210
You said you never said it. You were wrong. Straw Man Feb 2013 #212
Where is the word "never" in here? OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #217
Words in mouths. Straw Man Feb 2013 #220
So it's an enforcement problem. Straw Man Feb 2013 #196
Again, you cannot enforce the law as is OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #197
More misrepresentation. Straw Man Feb 2013 #199
More misrepresentation from you OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #201
Facts. Straw Man Feb 2013 #202
Now is where he rebuts by using a penis joke or something. iiibbb Feb 2013 #204
FACTS: Try learning some. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #206
More facts. Straw Man Feb 2013 #207
Your point was . . . . you opinion was . . . . OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #209
I have made no errors of fact. Straw Man Feb 2013 #214
No, you title your post facts, and then your whole argument is OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #216
I don't know what your title line means. Straw Man Feb 2013 #219
Besides, isn't referring to OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #211
I never did. Straw Man Feb 2013 #213
oh right, that's why the veiled reference about the ATF stopping international intrigue? OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #215
The "veil" is in your mind. Straw Man Feb 2013 #218
...... raidert05 Feb 2013 #179
What's an "assault weapon"? nt rDigital Dec 2012 #5
I use my defense weapon when someone is using their assault weapon. Looks like this Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #13
The homicide rate is down to what it was in the late 1960's. krispos42 Dec 2012 #6
just some quick points gejohnston Dec 2012 #7
Thanks for the clarification. I am trying to find my way around this issue. nt Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #18
I'm not here to point out flaws, tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #8
thanks for your reponse. Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #20
You're welcome tortoise1956 Dec 2012 #27
I appreciate your questions bobclark86 Dec 2012 #30
You can own a bazooka, with no special permits. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #9
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. ileus Dec 2012 #10
a person with a gun in his hand who shoots and kills someone has disolved the space Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #31
Your premise fails to address the reality of an assault. rrneck Dec 2012 #11
My three suggestions do not take guns out of anyone's hands-- Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #21
Your three suggestions do not address rrneck Dec 2012 #25
The 20 dead children were not alone. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #35
do you get stopped and frisked in NYC? gejohnston Dec 2012 #37
I don't live there so that's not really a relevant question for me. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #41
I don't live there either but gejohnston Dec 2012 #43
But your argument is the whole problem right there. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #46
two things. gejohnston Dec 2012 #49
One thing. OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #52
most hunting regulations limit gejohnston Dec 2012 #53
You have made assumptions that are too narrow. iiibbb Jan 2013 #100
The basis of all law is reasonableness. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #109
law = reasonableness? iiibbb Feb 2013 #120
I'm not saying what the law should be. OrwellwasRight Feb 2013 #124
The disparity of force made them alone. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #39
But that's not about individualism, then. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #12
Thank you. Your points are well made. Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #23
Baloney. You're just as much in favor of individualization as the next guy. slackmaster Dec 2012 #14
Have you consider the price... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #22
I am NOT calling for collecrivism, but for a bxit of common sense. nt Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #24
If you speak out against individualism ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #26
American etc. modern "individualism" tama Jan 2013 #89
Are you saying thqt ll laws whbich inhibit my action are collectivisic. Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #28
Hey, you sound like someone willing to sit down at the table Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #32
Good, Thats my opinion Dec 2012 #38
Sure, if you agree that we need more "faith" to overcome this issue. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #54
A religious perspective tends to seek solutions in faith. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #56
No, he is not seeking a solution in faith, he is placing blame on those without it. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #57
Okay. Glaug-Eldare Dec 2012 #58
Wait, I thought you said it was "human unfaithfulness" that caused this shooting. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #55
JAYSUS... LAGC Feb 2013 #121
Thanks for pointing out a group on DU I think I never want to participate in. iiibbb Feb 2013 #122
Well Said fightthegoodfightnow Dec 2012 #61
The Night Before Newtown TimKeller Dec 2012 #73
In a "Free Society" DWC Jan 2013 #92
I have a better solution. Spryguy Jan 2013 #94
I am still batting 1000 iiibbb Jan 2013 #102
"We don’t allow civilians to purchase or own machine guns" - actually 'we' do... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #101
to be an individual is be the subset of a set. without the individual there is no set. how the Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #123
Personally, I do not think that anything you propose will curtail gun violence. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #127
First assault weapons are used for hunting and competitive target shooting at the national level. .. spin Feb 2013 #144
I have to disagree with Points 1 and 2 kudzu22 Feb 2013 #145
"Assault" weapons are not useful only for mass killing Starboard Tack Feb 2013 #146
Message auto-removed Sailor2000 Feb 2013 #200
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