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In reply to the discussion: President Obama: 2nd Amendment is Constitutional Right. [View all]friendly_iconoclast
(15,333 posts)75. The gun control false consensus is falling apart, and they're not taking it well at all...
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1172&pid=81761
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consensus_effect
http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/11/why-we-all-stink-as-intuitive.php
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002210317790049X
The false consensus effect: An egocentric bias in social perception and attribution processes
Lee Ross, David Greene, Pamela House
Stanford University
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consensus_effect
In psychology, the false-consensus effect or false-consensus bias is a cognitive bias whereby a person tends to overestimate how much other people agree with him or her. There is a tendency for people to assume that their own opinions, beliefs, preferences, values and habits are 'normal' and that others also think the same way that they do.[1] This cognitive bias tends to lead to the perception of a consensus that does not exist, a 'false consensus'. This false consensus is significant because it increases self-esteem. The need to be "normal" and fit in with other people is underlined by a desire to conform and be liked by others in a social environment...
...The false-consensus effect is not necessarily restricted to cases where people believe that their values are shared by the majority. The false-consensus effect is also evidenced when people overestimate the extent of their particular belief is correlated with the belief of others. Thus, fundamentalists do not necessarily believe that the majority of people share their views, but their estimates of the number of people who share their point of view will tend to exceed the actual number.
This bias is especially prevalent in group settings where one thinks the collective opinion of their own group matches that of the larger population. Since the members of a group reach a consensus and rarely encounter those who dispute it, they tend to believe that everybody thinks the same way.
Additionally, when confronted with evidence that a consensus does not exist, people often assume that those who do not agree with them are defective in some way.[2] There is no single cause for this cognitive bias; the availability heuristic, self-serving bias and naïve realism have been suggested as at least partial underlying factors.
...The false-consensus effect is not necessarily restricted to cases where people believe that their values are shared by the majority. The false-consensus effect is also evidenced when people overestimate the extent of their particular belief is correlated with the belief of others. Thus, fundamentalists do not necessarily believe that the majority of people share their views, but their estimates of the number of people who share their point of view will tend to exceed the actual number.
This bias is especially prevalent in group settings where one thinks the collective opinion of their own group matches that of the larger population. Since the members of a group reach a consensus and rarely encounter those who dispute it, they tend to believe that everybody thinks the same way.
Additionally, when confronted with evidence that a consensus does not exist, people often assume that those who do not agree with them are defective in some way.[2] There is no single cause for this cognitive bias; the availability heuristic, self-serving bias and naïve realism have been suggested as at least partial underlying factors.
http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/11/why-we-all-stink-as-intuitive.php
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/002210317790049X
The false consensus effect: An egocentric bias in social perception and attribution processes
Lee Ross, David Greene, Pamela House
Stanford University
Abstract
Evidence from four studies demonstrates that social observers tend to perceive a false consensus with respect to the relative commonness of their own responses. A related bias was shown to exist in the observers' social inferences. Thus, raters estimated particular responses to be relatively common and relatively unrevealing concerning the actors' distinguishing personal dispositions when the responses in question were similar to the raters' own responses; responses differing from those of the rater, by contrast, were perceived to be relatively uncommon and revealing of the actor. These results were obtained both in questionnaire studies presenting subjects with hypothetical situations and choices and in authentic conflict situations. The implications of these findings for our understanding of social perception phenomena and for our analysis of the divergent perceptions of actors and observers are discussed. Finally, cognitive and perceptual mechanisms are proposed which might account for distortions in perceived consensus and for corresponding biases in social inference and attributional processes
Evidence from four studies demonstrates that social observers tend to perceive a false consensus with respect to the relative commonness of their own responses. A related bias was shown to exist in the observers' social inferences. Thus, raters estimated particular responses to be relatively common and relatively unrevealing concerning the actors' distinguishing personal dispositions when the responses in question were similar to the raters' own responses; responses differing from those of the rater, by contrast, were perceived to be relatively uncommon and revealing of the actor. These results were obtained both in questionnaire studies presenting subjects with hypothetical situations and choices and in authentic conflict situations. The implications of these findings for our understanding of social perception phenomena and for our analysis of the divergent perceptions of actors and observers are discussed. Finally, cognitive and perceptual mechanisms are proposed which might account for distortions in perceived consensus and for corresponding biases in social inference and attributional processes
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notice: He said Criminals NOT PreCriminals are whatever is the term some Anti-2Aers have been using.
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2012
#5
Obama understands the Constitution and well knows that Pro-2Aers voted for him.
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2012
#3
Yes that's it exactly. You want the option of staging armed rebellion against the United States.
Loudly
Nov 2012
#38
The gun control false consensus is falling apart, and they're not taking it well at all...
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#75
Explain how your semantic construct works, using basic rules of grammar. I bet you can't. n/t
PavePusher
Nov 2012
#72
Could you list the other collective rights guaranteed in the constitution?
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#135
Logically, if you could post a link to where any "responsible person has ever seriously argued that
AnotherMcIntosh
Nov 2012
#52
Well then, we'll just have to keep doing what we've been doing all along-
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#76
why do I bother? "and keep the guns in the house." Period. End of discussion.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#77
Bloomberg backed Obama. He is a LIBERAL democrat from Mass in case you didn't know
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#79
guess you aren't an Obama fan. I would think you would appreciate he gave him his endorsement
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#85
I expect no less from the multi-million dollar suits of the #1 lobby superPac in the world-the NRA
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#87
I bide my time,but Mayor Mike is the Equalizer...btw, guns are rightwing.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#133
you left out "in the street". (of course, because you guys have no answer for it)
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#139
"get rid of ALL guns from the street, and you get rid of gun violence 100%."
PavePusher
Nov 2012
#144
I wouldn't expect you to understand as you don't want change.You want 1850s wild west.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#146
Mikey will be history soon enough...and it will be good riddance to repuke trash
ProgressiveProfessor
Nov 2012
#140
He is a young man with billions to give away. His mother lived to be 102
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#142
I do not care about the Brady bill-it is fundamentally flawed and can never work
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#151
nobody ever heard of it. As the Pet Shop Boys sang (c)Sondheim "Somewhere"
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#154
after a week or so with no lights not once did I feel I needed a gun...as Alan Jackson said in
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#168
The only conclusion I can draw from your "rebutal"... is that freebasing is bad for you. Good luck.
PavePusher
Nov 2012
#136
Were you *entirely* sure about the government during the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush II years?
friendly_iconoclast
Nov 2012
#112
You're the only one here talking about "seeking to overthrow our Constitutional government"
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#171
I can't tell whether you are being deliberately obtuse here, so I'll just explain my position again
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#174
My issue is the the security of the state, which includes the capacity for effective self-defense
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#170
The state isn't secure unless every community, neighborhood, family, and individual are also secure
slackmaster
Nov 2012
#175