Gun Control & RKBA

fightthegoodfightnow

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73. Nah

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 08:41 PM

Nov 2012

Just smart enough not to take your bait.

I'll support any AWB ban. I'll even let you help define which ones are to be added to the list, in addition to the ones they have added.

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President Obama: 2nd Amendment is Constitutional Right. [View all] Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 OP

What's sad is... LP2K12 Nov 2012 #1

Just so you and your father know, President Obama also said this: Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #2

notice: He said Criminals NOT PreCriminals are whatever is the term some Anti-2Aers have been using. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #5

And don't forget those pesky hidden criminals. glacierbay Nov 2012 #14

Obama understands the Constitution and well knows that Pro-2Aers voted for him. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #3

Barak Obama, Oct 16, 2012. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #4

let him see. he will be looking for a long time. betcha. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #8

That's irrelevant to this point. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #9

ah, throw the poor guy a bone. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #12

Yep glacierbay Nov 2012 #15

He had to toss a bone to a vocal gun controllers hack89 Nov 2012 #45

The impact I could see is on import firearms/ammo. Remmah2 Nov 2012 #6

He could go on BillO's show AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #7

Obama didn't say that Renew Deal Nov 2012 #10

True: It was an administration official. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #13

This ought to really piss of the Brady org. glacierbay Nov 2012 #11

A constitutional right on what basis? To go to war with your government? Loudly Nov 2012 #16

Awwwww glacierbay Nov 2012 #17

Well said, gb friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #74

Based on, ya know, the constitution. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #18

What hooey. Loudly Nov 2012 #21

You can quit beating that horse Shares. glacierbay Nov 2012 #22

Yup, pretty much. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #23

What? Why do you hate the First Amendment? And the Twenty-Fourth? n/t PavePusher Nov 2012 #69

+1000000 glacierbay Nov 2012 #24

Hey there Shares... ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #19

I shall refer to our Declaration of Rights Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #33

Very good. This can't be repeated often enough. Loudly Nov 2012 #34

Uh... You may want to read that again, friend. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #35

No fair citing facts to Shares United, now known as Loudly ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #37

Yes that's it exactly. You want the option of staging armed rebellion against the United States. Loudly Nov 2012 #38

You want to play? Let's play. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #41

Paragraph by paragraph rebuttal. Loudly Nov 2012 #44

"Why the theoretical concern about your government rounding people up?" PavePusher Nov 2012 #70

And an appropriate response. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #89

Much more diplomatic than my response.... PavePusher Nov 2012 #93

Pretty silly talk from you Shares ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #43

Only basis? No. Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #36

Wrong. It is a right. And here is a liberal who agreed with that: Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #50

Some hurt feelings in his thread former-republican Nov 2012 #20

Oh, my GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD! VPStoltz Nov 2012 #25

And if I find that guns make me happy? Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #26

Funny how the controllers become more and more glacierbay Nov 2012 #28

Your right to happiness is not unconditional. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #49

"2a absolutism" - Dishonesty in semantic redefinition isn't helping your cause. beevul Nov 2012 #57

I don't think I've ever gotten a serious answer Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #58

I've already provided the evidence down thread. You can exhale. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #60

You provided nothing, and called it evidence. beevul Nov 2012 #67

The gun control false consensus is falling apart, and they're not taking it well at all... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #75

Indeed, happiness is not guaranteed 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #134

What part of what he posted do you not understand? glacierbay Nov 2012 #27

What kind of rights do you think the Bill of Rights refers to? nt hack89 Nov 2012 #51

"in the bible"? PavePusher Nov 2012 #71

Constitutional right? Yes... bowens43 Nov 2012 #29

Sorry dude glacierbay Nov 2012 #31

Uh, well, you're wrong. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #32

Explain how your semantic construct works, using basic rules of grammar. I bet you can't. n/t PavePusher Nov 2012 #72

Could you list the other collective rights guaranteed in the constitution? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #135

It could be gun owner suppression like voter suppression. Thinkingabout Nov 2012 #30

... ellisonz Nov 2012 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #40

your examples are all examples of weapons that cannot be 'borne'. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #47

"I've never seen that." Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #48

Logically, if you could post a link to where any "responsible person has ever seriously argued that AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #52

Here you go. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #55

"it's not clear whether he was being serious or not. " Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #59

That's because your 'evidence' is bullshit. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #66

As said above, Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #42

Wrong! RKBA is one of our unalienable/inalienable rights and as SCOTUS said jody Nov 2012 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #56

That is What the Party Platform Says Along with an AWB fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #61

Since you want a AWB, what "assault weapons" would you ban? And why? oneshooter Nov 2012 #62

The Ones the Really Smart People Want to Ban fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #63

those are already banned or simply not sold gejohnston Nov 2012 #64

So you have no idea what you are supporting? oneshooter Nov 2012 #68

Nah fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #73

Well then, we'll just have to keep doing what we've been doing all along- friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #76

Right fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #80

Erm... About that. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #90

Not Even Close fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #101

you are missing a couple of things gejohnston Nov 2012 #104

I quoted the Entire Text in Entirety and Support 100% as is. fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #107

who cares? gejohnston Nov 2012 #121

Other than the Use Of Guns Results in Murder and Crime fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #122

so why does USVI, gejohnston Nov 2012 #123

I Make No Claim to Know fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #125

only that it has nothing to do with laxer gun laws gejohnston Nov 2012 #127

You seem to forget what the *leader* of the Democratic Party said friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #100

See Post 101 fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #102

You didn't 'say' anything, you simply parroted the platform. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #110

And Once Again fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #113

So you willingly admit that you support laws that you know nothing about. oneshooter Nov 2012 #120

Right fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #124

why do I bother? "and keep the guns in the house." Period. End of discussion. graham4anything Nov 2012 #77

I don't know why you bother, either. Union Scribe Nov 2012 #78

Bloomberg backed Obama. He is a LIBERAL democrat from Mass in case you didn't know graham4anything Nov 2012 #79

You give us permission to have a gun glacierbay Nov 2012 #82

"Your (supposed) right to a gun stops when you take it outside." PavePusher Nov 2012 #94

Bloomberg is a right wing knob. Union Scribe Nov 2012 #169

I see our little RW authoritarian is back glacierbay Nov 2012 #81

someday our prince will come...and MMMM is that Prince. graham4anything Nov 2012 #83

Are you talking about Blooming Idiot? glacierbay Nov 2012 #84

guess you aren't an Obama fan. I would think you would appreciate he gave him his endorsement graham4anything Nov 2012 #85

You're a funny person glacierbay Nov 2012 #86

I expect no less from the multi-million dollar suits of the #1 lobby superPac in the world-the NRA graham4anything Nov 2012 #87

Another RW position glacierbay Nov 2012 #88

I bide my time,but Mayor Mike is the Equalizer...btw, guns are rightwing. graham4anything Nov 2012 #133

"btw, guns are rightwing."? Now you claim to follow a sect of animism? PavePusher Nov 2012 #137

you left out "in the street". (of course, because you guys have no answer for it) graham4anything Nov 2012 #139

"get rid of ALL guns from the street, and you get rid of gun violence 100%." PavePusher Nov 2012 #144

I wouldn't expect you to understand as you don't want change.You want 1850s wild west. graham4anything Nov 2012 #146

Mikey will be history soon enough...and it will be good riddance to repuke trash ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #140

He is a young man with billions to give away. His mother lived to be 102 graham4anything Nov 2012 #142

much of it to keep Brown in the Senate. gejohnston Nov 2012 #143

What, he won't live to be a zillion? Or is he worth a zillion? ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #148

the NRA is the 1%. 98.7% of America is NOT a member of the NRA. graham4anything Nov 2012 #149

How many are the Brady bunch, now? Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #150

I do not care about the Brady bill-it is fundamentally flawed and can never work graham4anything Nov 2012 #151

Brady Campaign, not the bill. Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #152

nobody ever heard of it. As the Pet Shop Boys sang (c)Sondheim "Somewhere" graham4anything Nov 2012 #154

Your hero worship of a classic 1%er is both amazing and telling ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #162

Isn't it? glacierbay Nov 2012 #164

BTW glacierbay Nov 2012 #163

So far, s/he's never answered any question. PavePusher Nov 2012 #165

Yep glacierbay Nov 2012 #167

after a week or so with no lights not once did I feel I needed a gun...as Alan Jackson said in graham4anything Nov 2012 #168

How very fucking "Dick Cheney" of you DonP Nov 2012 #91

He's already on record glacierbay Nov 2012 #92

Which begs the question: PavePusher Nov 2012 #97

Beats the hell out of me. glacierbay Nov 2012 #99

He- Like You - Is Entitled to His Opinion fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #129

Sure, he's entitled to his own opinion glacierbay Nov 2012 #161

IRS audits of your political enemies? How very Nixonian. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #111

"THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO OWNING BULLETS" PavePusher Nov 2012 #95

no, they are not. Arms are not legs. graham4anything Nov 2012 #132

The only conclusion I can draw from your "rebutal"... is that freebasing is bad for you. Good luck. PavePusher Nov 2012 #136

"...get rid of ALL guns outside the home....." slackmaster Nov 2012 #96

... and Bloomies bodyguards of course DonP Nov 2012 #98

It's all Bizarro, all the time, with this one. PavePusher Nov 2012 #138

And That Is Bad? fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #108

Were you *entirely* sure about the government during the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush II years? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #112

History fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #114

You're the only one here talking about "seeking to overthrow our Constitutional government" slackmaster Nov 2012 #171

No fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #172

I can't tell whether you are being deliberately obtuse here, so I'll just explain my position again slackmaster Nov 2012 #174

You Clarified Your Position fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #176

More fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #126

My issue is the the security of the state, which includes the capacity for effective self-defense slackmaster Nov 2012 #170

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #173

The state isn't secure unless every community, neighborhood, family, and individual are also secure slackmaster Nov 2012 #175

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #177

Until a Supreme Court with a different make up upaloopa Nov 2012 #103

so you are saying all judges are politicians in robes gejohnston Nov 2012 #105

Is that what he said? fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #109

Not gonna happen glacierbay Nov 2012 #106

Ever hear of Citizens United? It over turned upaloopa Nov 2012 #115

Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce gejohnston Nov 2012 #118

Hhhm fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #117

there is a difference gejohnston Nov 2012 #119

Based on a Compelling State Interest fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #128

but compelling state interest has to be demostrated gejohnston Nov 2012 #130

Huh? fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #131

defending yourself is legal gejohnston Nov 2012 #141

No One Is 'Defending' Themselves in a Duel fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #145

there are no duels in the street, that was the point gejohnston Nov 2012 #147

Thankfully, the president made no reference to guns. Starboard Tack Nov 2012 #116

President Obama: Making fatuous statements is a Constitutional Right. MrModerate Nov 2012 #153

I am a gun owning liberal democrat beachbumbob Nov 2012 #155

And the rate of homicides committed with "assault weapons" Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #156

its the premise that assault weapoons are being sold. beachbumbob Nov 2012 #157

Automobiles, fax machines, televisions, Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #158

Why did you not post your comment in a manner known to those writers? PavePusher Nov 2012 #160

They are quite popular in lawful game hunting. PavePusher Nov 2012 #159

Precise definitions matter on this topic ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #166