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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
4. Secular. MSM has been & continues to be the gun prohibitionist's pressure group.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:47 AM
Nov 2012

You want MSM to do the footwork, organizing, fund-raising, outreach -- all the things a viable special interest group is supposed to do! I.E., Washington Post, h-e-e-l-l-p m-e-e-e.

Frankly, MSM has a lot more to worry about than to resume a biased culture war they have lost, and which may be cutting into a shrinking reader/viewer audience.

Want some political juice? Try organizing like everyone else.

BTW, does the head of mediamat still employ an armed bodyguard?

<duplicate> sarisataka Nov 2012 #1
There has also been basically no national movement on gun laws krispos42 Nov 2012 #2
I think we also need to challenge the idea that the NRA is a single issue advocacy group. HankyDub Nov 2012 #6
I don't like the NRA glacierbay Nov 2012 #9
this is obviously untrue HankyDub Nov 2012 #11
Post the proof that the NRA glacierbay Nov 2012 #12
Proof is in the pudding. HankyDub Nov 2012 #16
What Proof? glacierbay Nov 2012 #18
Continue to ignore it HankyDub Nov 2012 #20
Just as I thought glacierbay Nov 2012 #22
as I thought HankyDub Nov 2012 #24
And you continue to refuse to provide proof. glacierbay Nov 2012 #25
I have provided ample proof HankyDub Nov 2012 #26
One more time glacierbay Nov 2012 #28
why is it you continue to ignore the centerpieceof my argument? HankyDub Nov 2012 #32
Here's what you said glacierbay Nov 2012 #35
As for second Admendment rights, Romeny is more pro gun than Obama. Travis_0004 Nov 2012 #130
your proof is the personal rants of the board of directors gejohnston Nov 2012 #30
that is just one piece of evidence I provided HankyDub Nov 2012 #31
Now your changing. glacierbay Nov 2012 #33
I said that they opposed a president who reduced restrictions on guns HankyDub Nov 2012 #36
No, glacierbay Nov 2012 #37
You have now avoided responding to my central point about 5 times now HankyDub Nov 2012 #39
That's funny you saying that I've failed glacierbay Nov 2012 #42
I have provided excellent evidence HankyDub Nov 2012 #43
You're not very good at this debate thing. nt WinniSkipper Nov 2012 #85
I agree with you. I have gone through the same argument with doc03 Nov 2012 #126
Still doesn't answer the question glacierbay Nov 2012 #127
All of Obama's bills gejohnston Nov 2012 #34
So they paid right wing lunatics iwth other agendas HankyDub Nov 2012 #38
But what other issues, other than gun rights have they advocated for? glacierbay Nov 2012 #40
so the NRA support for Strickland over Kaisach gejohnston Nov 2012 #41
How many ways can you guys avoid discussing the point I made? HankyDub Nov 2012 #44
because your conclusions are based on guesses without gejohnston Nov 2012 #45
what counter point? HankyDub Nov 2012 #46
Kasich voted for the federal one in 1994 gejohnston Nov 2012 #47
Congratulations! HankyDub Nov 2012 #48
The NRA (had) to endorse Strickland just what did they do to support him? doc03 Nov 2012 #128
my understand of why gejohnston Nov 2012 #129
So...did you actively support and work for the candidate whose gun position matched yours? dumbledork Nov 2012 #51
An interesting question that will probably be ignored... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #53
Unlike 2a fanatics HankyDub Nov 2012 #59
I am a Constitutional fanatic...THAT is my single issue. dumbledork Nov 2012 #83
But of course you do pick and choose HankyDub Nov 2012 #84
Well, at the end of the day...make that the end of the century, all this bloviating and parsing dumbledork Nov 2012 #86
So you concede that your argument sucks HankyDub Nov 2012 #87
Could you spare a couple grams of whatever you're smoking? dumbledork Nov 2012 #88
Nor is anyone else here-that's why we voted Obama. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #90
actually many of you seem to be single issue people HankyDub Nov 2012 #91
Ahem- *You* post here a lot and are... shall we say, "concerned" about guns, no? friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #92
Let's count. HankyDub Nov 2012 #93
That does not in any way affect the validity of what I say. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #96
41% of your posts are to this forum backwoodsbob Nov 2012 #100
Oh, your pudding? Conservatives change infrequently. Reactionairies, never. Which are you? Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #54
You have not Jenoch Nov 2012 #99
I've been trying to get him to explain what other issues other that gun rights glacierbay Nov 2012 #101
Gun rights only? safeinOhio Nov 2012 #49
Once again glacierbay Nov 2012 #50
It seems that you have great difficult with reading comprehension. HankyDub Nov 2012 #60
Not playing your little game anymore. glacierbay Nov 2012 #62
Translation: "this being on the losing side of an argument really bites." I notice you in that apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #144
Once again: that ad mentions "debt," "spending," and "threats to sovereignty," and apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #143
Links? glacierbay Nov 2012 #145
What do you mean, "links"? Right there in #49, one of the posts we're arguing about it. apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #146
Welllllll glacierbay Nov 2012 #147
You are 100% correct! Logical Nov 2012 #58
The notion that the NRA is anything BUT a right-wing advocacy group is so obviously ludicrous apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #142
Anything coming out of MediaMatters glacierbay Nov 2012 #3
Many right wingers do hate mediamatters HankyDub Nov 2012 #17
So are you accusing me of being a RW? nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #19
I'm pointing to your ad hominem HankyDub Nov 2012 #21
That's your opinion and I soundly reject it. glacierbay Nov 2012 #23
A reply on glacierbay's behalf Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #27
Thank you glacierbay Nov 2012 #29
Does the head of mediamatters still have an armed bodyguard accompanying him? Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #55
Disagree fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #70
Secular. MSM has been & continues to be the gun prohibitionist's pressure group. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #4
As I said before, don't make the wrong assumption. Atypical Liberal Nov 2012 #5
The Democratic platform on guns SecularMotion Nov 2012 #7
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #8
Pretty much mirrors my beliefs also. glacierbay Nov 2012 #10
Careful sarisataka Nov 2012 #13
I can't believe that post was hidden. glacierbay Nov 2012 #15
No surprise. The content was fine. But prohibitionists get their way on alerts. nt Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #56
Please Do Not Lump Us All in One Group fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #68
Post #8 fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #67
for once you and I are in agreement. Bad alert. Bad hide. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #74
I don't know what's more disturbing... tortoise1956 Nov 2012 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #72
Bipolar nature of anti-RKBA folks: the NRA is too powerful vs the NRA has no power aikoaiko Nov 2012 #14
It's Called an Election fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #78
Losers. ellisonz Nov 2012 #52
NRA LOST fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #57
Which is a good thing. nt hack89 Nov 2012 #61
Agree fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #65
Pro 2Aers helped to re-elect Obama. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #63
And So Did Dems Whose Majority and Party Platform Support an AWB fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #69
Nobody can get it all right every time. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #71
Not Talking about 'Nobody' fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #73
A lot of us held our nose on that rotten board in the platform and stepped around it. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #75
Ok fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #76
Yes, it is a major bone of contention within this party as is abortion for republicans. Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #77
Fair Enough fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #79
agreed and a lot of it (on both sides) I think, has to do with the nebulous definition of both words Tuesday Afternoon Nov 2012 #80
That's Probably True fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #81
Dissenters in Each fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #141
The NRA is doing nothing but eating sour grapes after losing big; Dog Gone at Penigma Nov 2012 #139
Agree fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #140
So all your crying wolf about the NRA was really much ado about nothing... cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #64
Disappointing fightthegoodfightnow Nov 2012 #66
Oh boy 81 posts on this, looks like you rattled the chains in the gungeon. doc03 Nov 2012 #82
This is actually good. hack89 Nov 2012 #94
I think it just didn't matter in this election because AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #95
Word. I wrote the NRA off long ago. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #97
Do you have an opinion Jenoch Nov 2012 #98
The NRA lost bigtime in 2012. Great article, and more great news to come in future graham4anything Nov 2012 #102
Meek Mike lost big too gejohnston Nov 2012 #103
He supported more winners than losers. He supports those that support gun control. graham4anything Nov 2012 #105
as far as I know, Brown was the only pol Mike supported gejohnston Nov 2012 #106
Bloomberg was the biggest supporter of Angus King among many, many others graham4anything Nov 2012 #107
so you are OK with him supporting canidates who coddle the criminals on Wall Street gejohnston Nov 2012 #108
You consider Angus King a bad person? The NRA is bad. Mike is the Equalizer. graham4anything Nov 2012 #109
never heard of Angus King. gejohnston Nov 2012 #110
Angus King is the newly elected independent Senator from maine who will caucus with Democrats graham4anything Nov 2012 #111
good to hear. gejohnston Nov 2012 #113
"guns.... They are WMD's" Then Bush was right about Iraq? AK's were and are common there. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #114
This is one of the funniest posts I've read in a long time derby378 Nov 2012 #131
Ahem- "Saint Michael of Bloomberg" supported one notable winner in 2004: George Bush friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #115
I posted this on the OWS thread- however, 75% of it is relevant right here. graham4anything Nov 2012 #116
What are you, Bloomie's 'advance man' for 2016? The shilling is blatant. friendly_iconoclast Nov 2012 #132
He is not running in 2016 is he? A woman will be our next president45. Meet Hillary Clinton. graham4anything Nov 2012 #133
personally, I see Brian Schweitzer gejohnston Nov 2012 #134
IMHO-the dems won't nominate a white male. Just fact of demographics. The base after all graham4anything Nov 2012 #135
People didn't vote for Obama because of his race, gejohnston Nov 2012 #136
Here you are 100% correct. But history shows we need a woman next. graham4anything Nov 2012 #137
Can you give me an example of a law that would violate the 2nd Amendment? Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #104
I guess not. Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #112
My right to peaceful assembly is ruined by your right to ruin my right to assemble peacefully. graham4anything Nov 2012 #117
Whaaaat? Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #118
But my right to my peaceful right to assemble is ruined-ask Gabby Giffords when that extremist shot graham4anything Nov 2012 #119
So nobody can safely assemble again? Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #120
in your home you (may) have a right. Not on a public street.(someday) graham4anything Nov 2012 #121
Do you have a reply to #120, or just more rambling? Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #122
I am going to peacefully assemble a large group next weekend. oneshooter Nov 2012 #123
I hope Zimmy from Florida is not part of your group graham4anything Nov 2012 #124
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #125
As Katrina proved, the only riots in Katrina were the cops acting as vigillantes graham4anything Nov 2012 #138
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