Gun Control & RKBA

PavePusher

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37. I have been in military aviation maintenance for 22 years....

Tue Oct 23, 2012, 11:15 PM

Oct 2012

and I can authoritatively say that your claim is utter rubbish.

Seriously, you can actually look this stuff up before you post, you obviously have access to the internet.

If airline passengers were allowed to fly armed, it's possible we might not be trying to replace some buildings in NYC today.

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Think of the children!! [View all] PavePusher Oct 2012 OP

to get rid of illegal guns, first we must keep all legal guns inside, and make new laws. graham4anything Oct 2012 #1

I know we now live in a permissive society ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #4

depends if you goal is to protect the guns or protect the safe life for everyone graham4anything Oct 2012 #10

My gun DOES protect life ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #13

people with legal guns are living their life in prisons of their own makings graham4anything Oct 2012 #18

Ridiculous ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #19

never say never. After all, recently a cop left his gun in the bathroom LOL LOL LOL graham4anything Oct 2012 #24

I've would never leave my cop in the bathroom ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #25

funny graham4anything Oct 2012 #26

I played all this evening with the ileus Oct 2012 #31

Sounds like a LOVELY prison ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #58

Oooooh, dogma! derby378 Oct 2012 #52

How extensive is the duty of a victim to ascertain if a brandished firearm is actually loaded? PavePusher Oct 2012 #5

+1 +1 +1 +1 grand slam discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #54

To protect the children we must first get rid of the things that cause violence ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #16

So I'll ask you again glacierbay Oct 2012 #61

why do you worry about the criminals when it's the legal guns that kill so much more. graham4anything Oct 2012 #62

Why won't you answer a simple question? glacierbay Oct 2012 #64

"...it's the legal guns that kill so much more." PavePusher Oct 2012 #65

AMEN!!!! fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #106

Being as I can't get him to answer this question glacierbay Oct 2012 #108

Any? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #109

Ok I'll bite glacierbay Oct 2012 #112

There are.... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #137

There is already laws against that glacierbay Oct 2012 #138

Agreement Again fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #160

Agreement is good. glacierbay Oct 2012 #161

Huh? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #110

No glacierbay Oct 2012 #111

Missed the Part Where You Call for a Ban fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #113

Why would I call for a ban on extended or hi cap mags? glacierbay Oct 2012 #114

There is a LONG list ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #2

yea, like d'uh- because a gun was inside the place it shouldn't be graham4anything Oct 2012 #11

So -- what you're saying is ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #17

yes. why are you afraid of getting on an airplane that is safe due to a TSA security system graham4anything Oct 2012 #20

"gun in a plane at 30,000 feet would put a hole in the plane and it would crash" holdencaufield Oct 2012 #22

That myth has long been busted. Clames Oct 2012 #29

I have been in military aviation maintenance for 22 years.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #37

You remind me of an Jenoch Oct 2012 #57

I'd have no problem with that. Well... I'd prefer to carry my own sidearm.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #59

re: "...at 30,000 feet would put a hole in the plane and it would crash." discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #45

Ya know, Google is your friend glacierbay Oct 2012 #63

Another point of ignorance... 57_TomCat Oct 2012 #68

I know he is dead and zimmerman stalked and killed the good lad. graham4anything Oct 2012 #70

Even that amount of info... 57_TomCat Oct 2012 #71

Trey is a child with a wonderful family and a wonderful mother. I do weep for him and his family. graham4anything Oct 2012 #72

and this child would be harmed or dead gejohnston Oct 2012 #73

one thing I have learned-the super lobby group NRA is wrong 24/7/365 forever. graham4anything Oct 2012 #75

said individual has been aressted for abducting another girl the previous month gejohnston Oct 2012 #85

the ACLU of Bill Kunstler got Bush family inc. off for Iran/Contra. Did you shred a tear then? graham4anything Oct 2012 #90

he did? Some how I don't picture it gejohnston Oct 2012 #97

ironic, huh? they sure did. Try a little homework. graham4anything Oct 2012 #101

I looked and looked and I can't find anything about William Kunstler glacierbay Oct 2012 #98

ironic huh. the ACLU sure did. And I believe Bill was still alive at the time. graham4anything Oct 2012 #102

Since you're so intimately familiar sylvi Oct 2012 #141

the ACLU indeed did defend the Bushfamilyinc in a most famous case...shred a tear dear. graham4anything Oct 2012 #142

You're babbling sylvi Oct 2012 #143

btw- you do not like the USA court system? graham4anything Oct 2012 #144

Hey Carnac glacierbay Oct 2012 #146

The only person talking about OJ Simpson sylvi Oct 2012 #149

you don't get parables, do you? Or Al E. Gore'ees graham4anything Oct 2012 #150

I get both sylvi Oct 2012 #151

the good people of the United States found him innocent graham4anything Oct 2012 #152

And the good people of the United States and the good people of NV. glacierbay Oct 2012 #155

based on the evidence that was presented...however no other person would have gotten 1 yr graham4anything Oct 2012 #156

Seems the good people of NV disagree with you. glacierbay Oct 2012 #157

Maybe because glacierbay Oct 2012 #153

either way in a few he will be out graham4anything Oct 2012 #158

Yep glacierbay Oct 2012 #159

I've already come to the conclusion glacierbay Oct 2012 #145

I could defeat you in a duel with both hands & feet tied behind my back. A brain duel. graham4anything Oct 2012 #147

Thank you for proving my point. glacierbay Oct 2012 #148

I've given it some thought discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #44

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #3

Do not advocate for the murder of lawful persons in my threads. PavePusher Oct 2012 #6

You don't get to define my posts upaloopa Oct 2012 #8

"When all the shooters are gone no one gets shot...." holdencaufield Oct 2012 #9

I'm predicting... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #49

I'm reminded ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #50

Say your prayers, sing kumbaya... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #51

So, you equate the lawful and the criminal as the same? PavePusher Oct 2012 #12

I equate ALL guns as equal. They all are WMD and they all kill. Get all of them off the streets. graham4anything Oct 2012 #14

My firearms collectively have existed over 1000 years ileus Oct 2012 #36

I would wager that like most people who make such sweeping, simplistic statements... slackmaster Oct 2012 #76

legal guns are the problem in getting rid of illegal guns graham4anything Oct 2012 #77

Classic non-answer slackmaster Oct 2012 #87

An illegal gun will never be gotten rid of long as there are legal ones graham4anything Oct 2012 #89

And if one gets rid of legal guns, do illegal ones somehow evaporate? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #93

Don't expect a straight answer from this one glacierbay Oct 2012 #94

How do you propose to accomplish your goal? Jenoch Oct 2012 #81

With a War on Guns, of course- which will no doubt be as effective as the War on Drugs... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #83

like the war on cigarettes. 90% used to smoke, now 10% do. graham4anything Oct 2012 #88

"one thing they never are/will/or was is democrats." Psst, your inner zampolit is showing. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #92

Get over yourself glacierbay Oct 2012 #95

Would you believe Control is better than Kaos. graham4anything Oct 2012 #104

Not the kind of control you want buddy boy. glacierbay Oct 2012 #105

calling a fellow human being an animal shows me all I need to show. MMMM graham4anything Oct 2012 #117

Yeah glacierbay Oct 2012 #118

You said you were a cop. Do you start each day thinking a human is a vicious animal? graham4anything Oct 2012 #120

Still didn't answer my question glacierbay Oct 2012 #122

some people thought Edison and Einstein were crazy or criminals too. graham4anything Oct 2012 #126

WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION? glacierbay Oct 2012 #128

yes they should be accessories in actuality. This is the gun thread graham4anything Oct 2012 #129

Now I know that you're a glacierbay Oct 2012 #131

It seems the community disagrees with you. PavePusher Oct 2012 #15

as I am a very loyal and good union man here is my reply graham4anything Oct 2012 #21

O.K........ what? PavePusher Oct 2012 #38

I'm sure you want nobody at all to have guns... slackmaster Oct 2012 #27

Looks like a jury defined it for you. Clames Oct 2012 #30

It was a 6-0 smackdown, and well-deserved slackmaster Oct 2012 #66

No, but we get to alert on them when they are this sick DonP Oct 2012 #32

Firearms are designed to save lives. ileus Oct 2012 #33

firearms are designed to kill CreekDog Oct 2012 #67

Firearms are designed to... 57_TomCat Oct 2012 #69

+zillion. You need to get rid of the legal guns to get rid of the illegal guns graham4anything Oct 2012 #78

We got rid of legal heroin in 1914- 98 years ago. The illegal variety is still available. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #82

want to bet? gejohnston Oct 2012 #86

S, it's not really about keeping guns "inside," but about banning them all. Thought so.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #140

Bloodthirsty much? Straw Man Oct 2012 #7

I am very proud. Each day more and more anti-gun people are coming forward on threads graham4anything Oct 2012 #23

People who express anti-gun sentiments respectfully have always been welcome in this group slackmaster Oct 2012 #28

Not really. Clames Oct 2012 #34

"We will not be bullied into silence." holdencaufield Oct 2012 #35

a legal gun outside the home, is the reason an illegal gun cannot be gotten rid of.(part 9) graham4anything Oct 2012 #40

Is that what you call ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #41

as Johnny Nash (not Cash) sang "I can see clearly now" lol graham4anything Oct 2012 #42

And as John Cleese (c) said "You're a Loonie" NT DonP Oct 2012 #43

Actually ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #46

In this case, an equally applicable phrase. DonP Oct 2012 #47

Well... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #48

it's certainly untainted by cheese NT DonP Oct 2012 #74

I...think it's a bit runnier than you'll like it, sir. discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #79

and Eric Idle (c)...did NOT sing "isn't it really nice to have the NRA...thank you very much. graham4anything Oct 2012 #91

???????????????? glacierbay Oct 2012 #96

...Squirrel! n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #99

Squirrely. glacierbay Oct 2012 #100

I love squirrels. I watch them play all the time. Very smart intelligent creatures made by God. graham4anything Oct 2012 #103

I also love squirrels, generally with dumplings or gravy. oneshooter Oct 2012 #107

that just shows me all I need to know. graham4anything Oct 2012 #115

Why? You don't eat meat? Or are you one of those people who have someone else do your killing for yo oneshooter Oct 2012 #133

Are you a vegan? n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #136

Raccoons sarisataka Oct 2012 #132

Actually, many rodents do that. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #134

Just proving once again glacierbay Oct 2012 #135

Hands? They eat with their HANDS? That's some funny funny shit right there... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2012 #154

Did you really just quote John Lennon the wife beater as a 'peace hero'? AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #60

So you intend to bully the other side into silence? derby378 Oct 2012 #53

Did you mean that for me? holdencaufield Oct 2012 #55

D'oh! Sorry about that. derby378 Oct 2012 #56

No-one is bullying you. PavePusher Oct 2012 #39

It's everywhere: Why are so many libs obsessed with bullies? Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #80

funny that there are liberals on a liberal democrat board. Peace&love without the NRA & guns 4ever graham4anything Oct 2012 #116

Liberals execising their 2A rights glacierbay Oct 2012 #119

taking away people's 1st amendment right to life/liberty/pursuit of happiness graham4anything Oct 2012 #121

Where in the 1st Amendment does is say anything about glacierbay Oct 2012 #123

So you agree my 1stamend. right to peaceful assemble is hurt by your gun? Glad we agree on something graham4anything Oct 2012 #124

Checkmate? glacierbay Oct 2012 #125

majority of Americans? Did you ask 500 NRA members and they agree with you??? graham4anything Oct 2012 #127

Yeah, majority of Americans. glacierbay Oct 2012 #130

Perhaps you are just now discovering? There's nothing liberal about gun-control. "Ever."nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #139

They are if you equate "bullying" with "not joining in an amen chorus" friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #84