Gun Control & RKBA

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Reply to virginia mountainman (Original post)

Wed Oct 17, 2012, 01:13 AM

Oct 2012

When your heart is in the right place, it's hard to hide it.

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BIG MISTAKE....Obama said "ban" when talking about guns... He just proved the NRA right..ON LIVE TV [View all] virginia mountainman Oct 2012 OP

OH NO d_b Oct 2012 #1

what the fuck? awake Oct 2012 #2

Said 'ban' WHAT? elleng Oct 2012 #3

assault weapons cilla4progress Oct 2012 #4

Are those actual votes that might have gone his way before that? enough Oct 2012 #5

Yes... virginia mountainman Oct 2012 #7

Thanks for an interesting post, but you are certainly putting words in enough Oct 2012 #49

Ridiculous fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #62

Telling the truth isn't helping Romney. Clames Oct 2012 #67

YOUR TRUTH IS NOT BETTER THAN OBAMA'S WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #69

YOU DON'T DECIDE WHOSE TRUTH IS BETTER. Clames Oct 2012 #78

NO- THAT'S YOUR JOB fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #81

Again with the purity test? PavePusher Oct 2012 #101

We do attract the self-appointed zampolits, don't we? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #173

"zampolits"?! At the risk (hell, utter certainty) of Godwining myself into oblivion... PavePusher Oct 2012 #177

Laughable. Clames Oct 2012 #109

Got It fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #111

You got nothing. Clames Oct 2012 #117

Worthless and Ineffective fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #122

You just can't get right can you. Clames Oct 2012 #131

Read Again fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #133

I got it right the first time. You on the other hand... Clames Oct 2012 #135

Again fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #164

There is a difference and it isn't a subtle one. Clames Oct 2012 #168

FLUFF fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #181

The president is using the AWB Jenoch Oct 2012 #175

Making a Point? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #180

Funniest damn post I've read on this forum in a long time derby378 Oct 2012 #285

no, because he didn't lie gejohnston Oct 2012 #79

GOT IT fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #84

I know more about guns than he does gejohnston Oct 2012 #94

Nonsense fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #99

so you are OK with gejohnston Oct 2012 #106

You Interpretation- Not Mine fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #108

this line gejohnston Oct 2012 #110

ILLEGAL GUN USE fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #112

I support defending yourself by what ever means possible gejohnston Oct 2012 #115

Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #116

no, gejohnston Oct 2012 #118

Illegal Gun Use is Not a Victimless Crime fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #120

you obviously do not understand what the bill was about gejohnston Oct 2012 #140

Get A FREAKING License fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #141

read closer gejohnston Oct 2012 #144

Simply Not True fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #150

I took the time to look up the laws gejohnston Oct 2012 #151

Always the Same fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #154

I have read a few accounts of people who have gejohnston Oct 2012 #158

Who? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #160

Have you tried to register a gun in DC? Remmah2 Oct 2012 #236

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #239

Emily Miller described the issue quite well. The process took her quite some time. PavePusher Oct 2012 #267

The LOONY Tune CONSERVATIVE Washington Times Bankrupt Moony Owned Paper fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #269

None of which has anything to do with the cited articles. You are attempting to dodge. PavePusher Oct 2012 #270

Not even going to read fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #271

ever read "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu? gejohnston Oct 2012 #274

...or Orwell's "1984"? Does the phrase "Ignorance is Strength" ring a bell? friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #276

You must be Superman by now. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #283

That's why you have me fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #279

Now you're touting willful ignorance as if it was a virtue. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #275

Yawn fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #278

I prefer a 1911 style or a SIG220 as a CHL gun. oneshooter Oct 2012 #281

One 30-round mag in the well, two more within reasonable reach derby378 Oct 2012 #284

None fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #289

3 total, 7rds each. n/t oneshooter Oct 2012 #296

It WASN'T a mistake - it was a BIG FUCKING MISTAKE derby378 Oct 2012 #282

Feel Better? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #290

The First Amendment is a beautiful thing (n/t) derby378 Oct 2012 #298

Completely Agree fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #301

I did read the articles mentioned, and you haven't. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #288

Irrelevent to the articles I cited to. PavePusher Oct 2012 #286

May I please see your FREAKING First, Fourth, Thirteenth and Twenty-Fourth Amendment licences? PavePusher Oct 2012 #172

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #183

Sigh.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #185

You aparently support people dying because they could not defend themselves. oneshooter Oct 2012 #126

Stupid fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #127

Self-defense which would be lawful except for the choice of tool.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #171

Bush could not reinstate a ban that was never presented to him by Congress. oneshooter Oct 2012 #123

Wink Wink fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #125

Are you saying that Congress DID present it to him? oneshooter Oct 2012 #155

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #157

Bush didn't let the AWB expire, Congress did. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #167

LOL fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #189

historical fact gejohnston Oct 2012 #190

Obviously, you don't like facts when they are inconvient to you. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #204

Which Didn't Happen .... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #218

Yes, defeating the AWB renewal was one of many gun-rights victories. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #242

Actually He Has fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #245

he didn't write the platform gejohnston Oct 2012 #247

Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #250

I said no such thing gejohnston Oct 2012 #252

Lip service isn't "pushing". GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #255

Hope You are Wrong fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #258

I doubt that he will want to spend the political capital for no gain. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #259

No Gain fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #261

Gun control is still a no gain. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #263

as for Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #264

We will know in a few days. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #268

Are you claiming the President is omniscient and infallible? PavePusher Oct 2012 #169

Are You Saying You Support a President You Oppose? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #184

You keep trying to sell the idea that if we disagree with the President on one issue.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #186

NO fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #188

Funny, seems you forgot what the topic is given your last... Clames Oct 2012 #191

What? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #192

You can't answer a question with a question. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #237

I Can't? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #241

Here in MO glacierbay Oct 2012 #10

Support President's Policies or Take Else Where fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #194

you don't grasp the difference between gejohnston Oct 2012 #197

I find it a bit sad and ironic Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #202

Wrong Side? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #222

I didn't say I wasn't going to vote for him glacierbay Oct 2012 #203

Supporting Documentation? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #220

I live here glacierbay Oct 2012 #223

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #226

My opinion is much more valid than yours glacierbay Oct 2012 #229

GET OUT OF HIS FACE AND STOP CALLING HIM OUT. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #235

Assault weapons ban is bunk James48 Oct 2012 #6

I miss my 742's. ileus Oct 2012 #11

You make a dangerous assumption Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #13

That was a huge mistake glacierbay Oct 2012 #8

Probably won't help him win my end of VA. ileus Oct 2012 #9

Yep, but Mittens never said BAN...Obama did.... virginia mountainman Oct 2012 #12

Already did... ileus Oct 2012 #15

What did he say exactly? NT Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #14

I just googled polls on assault weapons and it safeinOhio Oct 2012 #16

I strongly disagree Travis_0004 Oct 2012 #17

Most every poll showed only safeinOhio Oct 2012 #22

unless there is an "assault weapon loophole" gejohnston Oct 2012 #28

Most people don't have a clue what the issue is really about slackmaster Oct 2012 #19

how many actually know what they are being asked about? gejohnston Oct 2012 #21

It doesn't matter that the majority supports a ban Ter Oct 2012 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author slackmaster Oct 2012 #18

This has already broke on THR and TFL Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #20

It's on damn near every gun board Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #30

The NRA already has the gun nuts all stirred up. ellisonz Oct 2012 #43

No cable here 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #23

Here it is. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #40

Ah so it wasn't misrepresented 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #42

For the last 4 years, the President has been very disciplined re: AWB up to that point aikoaiko Oct 2012 #24

"Yes, AWB reauthorization can tip an undecided voter." ellisonz Oct 2012 #60

Go back and read that link again. Clames Oct 2012 #70

GOT IT fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #72

Wrong. Clames Oct 2012 #80

Outside Brady fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #82

Not surprising. Clames Oct 2012 #114

Huh? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #119

Didn't stutter. Clames Oct 2012 #138

Just like him/her to be clueless on the subject he/she is whining about rl6214 Oct 2012 #200

So, all politics is binary? PavePusher Oct 2012 #102

Dude ellisonz Oct 2012 #152

when it comes to Mitt gejohnston Oct 2012 #156

Those data are bad for your side, ellisonz. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #74

I agree but Berserker Oct 2012 #25

I find it interesting that neither candidate knows the difference between an automatic ... spin Oct 2012 #26

I've got to say I'm sorry but rl6214 Oct 2012 #27

It's all a lot of the RW folks are latching on to right now. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #29

... ellisonz Oct 2012 #59

He could have just said: "I'll enforce existing laws." But no. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #31

Well pointless1 Oct 2012 #32

His heart may be in the right place (wanting to reduce violence) but his head isn't if he thinks... eqfan592 Oct 2012 #33

I seriously doubt this will be a game changer Serve The Servants Oct 2012 #34

One suspects Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #35

Maybe, maybe not Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #37

You are right, Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #38

LOL fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #132

Mocking others for coming to the light? PavePusher Oct 2012 #174

Has He?????? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #182

Now you know that isn't the case, fight. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #207

Cool fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #211

One would be wrong. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #39

And on this Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #44

Bottom line, this isn’t going to hurt Obama except with swing voters. Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #36

After thinking about it more, I believe the more likely effect will be on the makeup of Congress slackmaster Oct 2012 #41

Show the polls that are coming out today showing Romney leading 51-45% rl6214 Oct 2012 #45

I don't understand your reply. Could you please re-phrase it to make it clear? slackmaster Oct 2012 #46

I think he meant Trunk Monkey Oct 2012 #47

If that is the case, I would say... slackmaster Oct 2012 #48

I don't see where I was issueing orders, there is a question mark there rl6214 Oct 2012 #91

My original response was directed at your title. The body just seemed to be nonsense. slackmaster Oct 2012 #95

I agree with you about the polls rl6214 Oct 2012 #195

No problem. I was posting from my cell phone anyway. slackmaster Oct 2012 #210

NONSENSE fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #50

And this is based on your extensive knowledge of how gun owning swing voters think, right? DonP Oct 2012 #52

EITHER SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT OR TAKE IT ELSEWHERE DURING THE ELECTION CYCLE fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #51

Do you see anyone supporting anyone else? gejohnston Oct 2012 #53

THREAD VIOLATES TOS fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #54

it is a prediction of what could happen gejohnston Oct 2012 #55

VIOLATION OF TOS fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #56

you missed the point gejohnston Oct 2012 #61

WTF? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #64

read the transcript gejohnston Oct 2012 #65

It Was A Simple Question fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #75

It was a mistake for Obama to say it gejohnston Oct 2012 #86

Speculation fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #92

his record as president can go either way gejohnston Oct 2012 #97

The Record Could Go Either Way? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #105

what he personally thinks and does in office gejohnston Oct 2012 #107

What did the jury say? ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #145

You Tell Me? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #148

I did not alert on it...but given your SHOUTING about TOS VIOLATIONS ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #166

The Solution to Bad Speech fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #193

As others have noted... ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #206

OK fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #213

Come On ProgressiveProfessor Oct 2012 #221

Nothing about Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #224

You're the one claiming TOS violations glacierbay Oct 2012 #228

Read Thread fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #230

Then alert on the OP if you are so sure. Clames Oct 2012 #170

No Need fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #179

Uh-huh. AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #199

Alert, or fuck off. You're not the Zampolit of the Gungeon. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #176

Nice--- How about YOU...oh...Nevermind fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #178

Nice fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #187

I have very little tolerance for self-appointed political officers. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #201

Nonsense fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #219

So alert on it glacierbay Oct 2012 #205

No Need fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #215

Just as I thought glacierbay Oct 2012 #225

All talk fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #227

You're the one shouting TOS violations, TOS violations glacierbay Oct 2012 #231

And you keep returning to it while I have moved on fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #233

Oh please. Misrepresent much? AtheistCrusader Oct 2012 #198

Someone's having a panic attack. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #217

PERHAPS THANKS TO YOUR ADVERSARIAL POSITION TO THAT OF OUR CANDIDATE fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #57

What is Romney's position on guns? gejohnston Oct 2012 #63

Do You Support the President's Position on Guns? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #76

Do you support the President's position on the 2A? gejohnston Oct 2012 #85

I SUPPORT ALL OF OBAMA's POSITIONS ON GUNS INCLUDING... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #88

I thought it was only the positions on the list gejohnston Oct 2012 #96

Read the List fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #137

retired cops and politicians gejohnston Oct 2012 #142

OK fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #143

where required. gejohnston Oct 2012 #146

So ..no amnesty. fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #147

use is different than possession gejohnston Oct 2012 #149

How Many People Own Cars without a Driver's License? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #153

search me gejohnston Oct 2012 #159

Got It fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #161

collectors gejohnston Oct 2012 #162

LOL fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #163

some do gejohnston Oct 2012 #165

Reality check. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #238

NOT IN DC fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #240

Twisting the facts Remmah2 Oct 2012 #243

I don't. fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #244

since you are asking, you come up with the number gejohnston Oct 2012 #246

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #248

Florida gejohnston Oct 2012 #249

Florida fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #251

he pays for the insurance gejohnston Oct 2012 #253

OK fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #254

Only if you drive on public roads. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #256

I doubt Mitt drives gejohnston Oct 2012 #257

Wrong glacierbay Oct 2012 #266

Fred Loya Insurance will write a policy without a license. oneshooter Oct 2012 #262

State Still Requires fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #265

If he really supported that, why did he nominate two gun-grabbers to the SC? Ter Oct 2012 #136

Huh? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #139

ANYONE SAYING THE PRESIDENT MADE A BIG MISTAKE SHOULD THINK HOW THEY ARE HELPING ROMNEY fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #58

If this is a TOS violation? holdencaufield Oct 2012 #66

HOGWASH fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #68

And yet ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #71

Read Post Again fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #73

It's not about guns ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #77

Good Grief- Korea? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #83

What is Mitt's position? gejohnston Oct 2012 #87

I Could Care Less fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #89

So -- your position is --- holdencaufield Oct 2012 #90

I Support the President 100% fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #93

supporting and agreeing are two different things gejohnston Oct 2012 #98

Huh? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #103

I'm glad you support the President 100% holdencaufield Oct 2012 #100

Good Grief fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #104

Right now ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #113

Anything About Guns fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #128

Blind faith? Remmah2 Oct 2012 #212

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #214

I disagree with his position on the AWB glacierbay Oct 2012 #232

Ok fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #234

You support the President's position on guns? jbgood1977 Oct 2012 #121

Sure fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #124

No -- I do not. holdencaufield Oct 2012 #129

No Need fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author former-republican Oct 2012 #196

The only thing that saves the President is that Romney has the same opinion - and lied about it. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #208

He did a flip flop. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #209

Yup, and the President called him on it, too. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #216

Obama's statement is 100% Democratic Party Platform. It forces every Dem candidate to either jody Oct 2012 #260

And I am PROUD to reject this part of our party's platform derby378 Oct 2012 #272

derby378 & jody, well 2 is a start. Anyone else want to join us? nt jody Oct 2012 #273

Me. I'm proud to reject that part of the platform. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #277

Come raise your glass with us! derby378 Oct 2012 #280

You got friends. Count me in. n/t PavePusher Oct 2012 #287

I support everything in the platform EXCEPT those two items slackmaster Oct 2012 #293

Include me in. NT Simo 1939_1940 Oct 2012 #306

I SUPPORT OUR PLATFORM ON GUNS PROUDLY fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #291

Who cares if the VAST MAJORITY of elected party delegates do too? glacierbay Oct 2012 #292

Who Cares fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #294

So tell us glacierbay Oct 2012 #295

Give Me a Report and Let Me Know fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #297

Here you go. glacierbay Oct 2012 #299

Doesn't Change My Vote fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #300

the ban didn't do it gejohnston Oct 2012 #302

Glacierbay Said fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #303

That is a lie. Clames Oct 2012 #305

This message was self-deleted by its author glacierbay Oct 2012 #307

1.6%? Not really krispos42 Oct 2012 #308

So..... fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #309

pointless theater that distracts from real issues gejohnston Oct 2012 #310

Give Me a Break fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #311

It was certainly a big contributing factor glacierbay Oct 2012 #312

No fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #314

I will retract my statement saying that it was a lie glacierbay Oct 2012 #316

Fair Enough and Thanks fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #317

Absolutely part of it was the Health Care debacle glacierbay Oct 2012 #319

Will Do fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #322

No I haven't read either book glacierbay Oct 2012 #324

1 post deleted and 1 post edited. glacierbay Oct 2012 #320

Thank you again fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #321

That doesn't make any damn sense glacierbay Oct 2012 #313

Oh We Disagree on That fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #315

That's where we definitely disagree glacierbay Oct 2012 #318

Here's the problems. krispos42 Oct 2012 #326

"Evidentally, the VAST MAJORITY of elected party delegates do too." IMO they are just as woefully jody Oct 2012 #304

The Majority of the Party Leadership is Ignorant? fightthegoodfightnow Oct 2012 #323

I did not suggest, I asserted they are ignorant. Their public statements are so pathetic they border jody Oct 2012 #325

kick discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #327

Man o Man, I am amazed at how some can start foaming at the mouth! LOL BUMP..... virginia mountainman Oct 2012 #328