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In reply to the discussion: Might Makes Wrong [View all]gejohnston
(17,502 posts)11. educate yourself on the issue
Shoot first laws remove the legal premise that has been at the core of Castle Doctrine and Self-defense laws for centuries - the duty to retreat if possible, the requirement to try to avoid lethal violence.
Castle Doctrine has been called "shoot first" in the US, even though it dates back to English common law, and is the law in commonwealth countries like Canada. Even though duty to retreat does date back to English common law, Stand Your Ground started to appear in US common law during the Progressive Era. US federal law, California, Utah, and Washington are examples. The first state to pass a SYG law that I know of is Illinois in 1961.
Based on your rants, your education on the issue comes from VPC or a some of the lower quality progressive sites. That is like watching Fox and calling yourself "well informed".
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Of course she does, but if she told you then everybody would know, and then it won't work!
oneshooter
Oct 2012
#16
I disagree slightly, I think the mindset is like that of some conservatives re HPV vaccine.
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#56
One of your biggest mistakes is confusing "unarmed" with "helpless" and "harmless".
PavePusher
Oct 2012
#31
...or the difference between anecdotes and statistics, as her posts are deficient in the latter.
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2012
#49