Gun Control & RKBA

Eleanors38

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86. Blossom? Like the kind Karl Rove referenced? nt

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Mother Jones: "The NRA Surge: 99 Laws Rolling Back Gun Restrictions" [View all] friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 OP

"the conspicuous lack of new gun crimes..." villager Oct 2012 #1

Not humor- fact. Violent crime and murder rates are down, per the FBI. friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #2

You are aware that gun violence is at historic lows and steadily falling? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #3

Doesn't matter DonP Oct 2012 #7

*crime rates* are falling, generally, which is of course, good. But the episodes of gun violence villager Oct 2012 #15

No - there are fewer shootings, injuries and deaths. hack89 Oct 2012 #16

"Empathy" You have to be fucking kidding me! DonP Oct 2012 #18

What do you mean by "become more horrific"? PavePusher Oct 2012 #19

Maybe he thinks they are more deaderer.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #85

Substitute a quantitative argument, which you will lose, for a qualitative argument 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #23

When "empathy" is strictly measured by degrees of capitulation... beevul Oct 2012 #65

The Delicate Flowers bongbong Oct 2012 #5

Hmmm? Unsupported hot air versus the FBI UCR, tough call. DonP Oct 2012 #8

Too bad bongbong Oct 2012 #12

Feel free to cite numbers and explain how less is more. PavePusher Oct 2012 #27

he can't do it. he's too busy hitting the bong Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #31

Boy, in my circle, if you bogart you are out. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #33

pretty much my point -- Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #34

Still don't qualify for Medicaire? Then try Green Cross/Green Shield! nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #40

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #56

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #36

The measure of guns making crime worse is more shootings, injuries and deaths. hack89 Oct 2012 #43

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #46

So armed robberies are up? Oh wait... maybe not. hack89 Oct 2012 #49

Just more for you to prove bongbong Oct 2012 #55

You are one implying something hack89 Oct 2012 #57

Nice strawman. ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #69

Blossom? Like the kind Karl Rove referenced? nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #86

Regardless of the cause, you do agree that there are fewer shootings, injuries and deaths, right? hack89 Oct 2012 #10

No thanks to guns bongbong Oct 2012 #11

But more guns have not made things worse - my only point. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #14

Nope, can't say that bongbong Oct 2012 #26

All I can prove is that there were less shootings, injuries and deaths. hack89 Oct 2012 #41

fine. don't like 'em. don't buy 'em. problem solved. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #32

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #39

not by you. you would be innocent, big daddy. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #58

And bongbong Oct 2012 #60

you are a total innocent. period. end of story. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #62

This guy sounds like a tape loop of a former poster.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #87

boingboing Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #88

Wharfgarble from you? What a surprise. PavePusher Oct 2012 #21

Wharfgarble bongbong Oct 2012 #28

You haven't "pointed out" anything. PavePusher Oct 2012 #29

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #37

LOL, more Wharfgarble. PavePusher Oct 2012 #45

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #47

Let's imagine that gun ownership stayed the same, Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #50

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #54

But you can't, or won't, demonstrate such a phenomenom. PavePusher Oct 2012 #64

Strawman alert! bongbong Oct 2012 #73

Cites, please... friendly_iconoclast Oct 2012 #80

some citizens are more equal than others. tell that to Tom Tomorrow and while you are it Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #30

Tell him yourself bongbong Oct 2012 #38

I am laying odds on you. any takers? Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #59

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #61

why do you care what delicate flowers do? trust me - we are just blowing in the wind. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #63

Congratulations, BongBong, you're down to 18 hidden posts in the last 90 dats. aikoaiko Oct 2012 #77

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #78

I thought that was pretty funny too. Priceless! Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #42

Now we just need to "roll back" 99 more gun control laws. -..__... Oct 2012 #4

So far this year over 30 NRA backed bills have become law. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #6

That's a good thing former-republican Oct 2012 #17

Yes, it is. GreenStormCloud Oct 2012 #20

This was during the midterms , too bad some Democrats can't get over this former-republican Oct 2012 #22

There is nothing liberal about gun-control... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #9

The link to MoJo absolutely freezes up on the first page of its article. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #13

" Liberalism is about expanding the rights of the people, not constricting them. " Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #44

hate to break it to you but, gejohnston Oct 2012 #48

So, because "people" does not mean individuals, Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #51

Of course they can. It's about balance. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #53

So, what restraints are actually placed on Congress? Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #66

If you study history, suffrage was considered detrimental at the time of the constitution. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #67

It's not a historical question -- Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #68

I'm not getting your reference to Catholic suffrage. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #75

It's not about minority or majority Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #79

Any right can be revoked, like the right to own slaves. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #81

The implicit right to own slaves Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #82

And 2A mentions no implicit right to carry concealed handguns. Starboard Tack Oct 2012 #83

Nor does the Constitution mention voter registration Glaug-Eldare Oct 2012 #84

No, youre completely wrong there. beevul Oct 2012 #70

Liberalism is always on firm footing when it seeks to EXPAND the rights of the individual. Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #52

There is no right that can be exercised by a collective that cannot also be exercised by an individu Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #71

I'd take these articles more seriously if they weren't all predicated on: the NRA wants X, 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #24

Will someone PLEASE, in the name of all that is Holy, tell MJ to unfuck their site.... PavePusher Oct 2012 #25

HA! Maybe they got too much objection to the article and put out a World-wide Hoo-Doo!nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #35

Finally got mojo's link to work. Didn't realize they had... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #72

How did you get it to work? PavePusher Oct 2012 #74

Opened it on my Samsung D600 smartphone... Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #76