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Francis Marion

(250 posts)
32. Popular gun ownership = a test for Freedom.
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 12:58 PM
Oct 2012

1) I have a right to own and use a firearm up to and including a military grade individual weapon. Fifty years ago, that meant an M1 Garand. Today, that means an M4 carbine.

2) I am one of The People. It is the right The People to keep and bear arms. Moreover, that right shall not be infringed. Stepping back, my human rights- gun rights among many others- are not GRANTED by the US Constitution. Rather, they are my- our- birthright and inheritance from God Almighty- rights which, after the fact, the US Constitution also happens to acknowledge.

3) I live in California, am a 'regular guy' (not a police officer, not in CANG)
-I cannot go to my local gun store and buy an M4 carbine as used in US service and therefore suitable for modern Second Amendment (well regulated militia) use.
-Can't legally buy a standard capacity M16 30-round magazine.
-Can't legally buy a semiautomatic M4-ish rifle due to various 'assault weapon' (a Nazi term) bans.
-Can't legally buy the same hardware I am likely to find in use by my local Sheriff's department.
-The People and The Institutions cannot legally make the same firearm choices, and I find this unacceptable and un-American, besides being contrary to Amendment II.

4) Bonus warning to people in free states:

If you don't want to end up like us in CA, you had better carefully vet the people you choose to make law, and exclude anybody who's compromised on the Bill of Rights, regardless of their party affiliation. It is more important to protect our rights than to elect just anybody who happens to belong to our party. I won't support candidates who won't support our Bill of Rights.

It'll be easy to slide into a police state over time, and a site more difficult to get back out of it, assuming an appetite for freedom still exists. Cassandra out.





For those who support "gun rights" [View all] SecularMotion Oct 2012 OP
I never use that term because it is inaccurate. Guns are inanimate objects and have no rights. slackmaster Oct 2012 #1
Guns are objects SecularMotion Oct 2012 #3
We'll just have to agree to disagree on some things. Thanks for being polite, and for providing... slackmaster Oct 2012 #5
Self defense could be defined as power as necessary to overpower an attacking force. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #7
So, self-defense is a human right... as long as you do it without tools. PavePusher Oct 2012 #15
So what kind of rights do we find in the Bill of Rights? nt hack89 Oct 2012 #17
Nicely stated Slackmaster Hangingon Oct 2012 #4
Amen, Brother Slackmaster! Hells Liberal Oct 2012 #13
The right to own and carry guns is an enumerated civil liberty hack89 Oct 2012 #2
I support the Second Amendment. Remmah2 Oct 2012 #6
Here's my contribution aikoaiko Oct 2012 #8
What say you, SM? Are there any "gun rights" that you support? nt rDigital Oct 2012 #9
Okay, I'll play discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #10
Okay rrneck Oct 2012 #11
Here goes Hells Liberal Oct 2012 #12
My contribution Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #14
Ok TPaine7 Oct 2012 #16
1. Gun rights.....guns don't have rights, we have rights to own firearms. ileus Oct 2012 #18
What of "water rights," "land rights," "property rights" or "abortion rights"? TPaine7 Oct 2012 #19
Water, land, and property rights are contractual constructs slackmaster Oct 2012 #20
But I thought the issue with "gun rights" was that the rights don't belong to the guns. TPaine7 Oct 2012 #22
I can't really explain myself. It's kind of a sound-of-fingers-on-the-chalkboard thing. slackmaster Oct 2012 #23
People also have water, land, property, and abortion rights. ileus Oct 2012 #24
well, I was going to contribute but, you all took the words right outta my mouth!! Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2012 #21
me too! And I am on a cell phone.nt Eleanors38 Oct 2012 #26
The second amendment "grants" nothing.. X_Digger Oct 2012 #25
My Answer Berserker Oct 2012 #27
Thanks for all the responses SecularMotion Oct 2012 #28
Do you activly support the Brady Campaign or the VPC? oneshooter Oct 2012 #29
re: "...many are uncomfortable..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2012 #31
The Devil is in the details DWC Oct 2012 #30
Popular gun ownership = a test for Freedom. Francis Marion Oct 2012 #32
Guns do not have rights. I have the right to keep and bear arms sarisataka Oct 2012 #33
Ditto, other than Reasonable_Argument Oct 2012 #34
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