i.e. more guns = more deaths (Reply #135)

In the discussion thread: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. [View all]

Mon Sep 17, 2012, 07:20 PM

135. i.e. more guns = more deaths

I don't know how to have a discussion with someone who can look at statistics and reply with...a non-reply. My statement, backed up by several sources, is obviously correct. Do whatever you want with that.

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum

Replies to this discussion thread

237 replies	Author	Time	Post
I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it. [View all]	rDigital	Sep 2012	OP
Does it ever jam on you?	NYC_SKP	Sep 2012	#1
Luckily, I have not experienced any malfunctions with my G17. It is one of the most reliable	rDigital	Sep 2012	#4
I'm guessing you don't own a Glock	trouble.smith	Sep 2012	#14
Good for you.	jehop61	Sep 2012	#2
+1000000 n/t	Control-Z	Sep 2012	#5
Thanks for demonstrating so vividly why "gun control" is failing.	Simo 1939_1940	Oct 2012	#204
If you ever start feeling insane....please don't get in your car.	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#15
So what can YOU do that shows YOU are not crazy today?	cleanhippie	Sep 2012	#157
OMG	shadowrider	Sep 2012	#3
; ) Bullet HOSE!!! nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#8
I haven't had the need for one today and have not felt the least bit worried about not having one	DrDan	Sep 2012	#6
May your good luck continue.	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#19
it has for a lot of years . . . and I don't really consider it luck	DrDan	Sep 2012	#23
No one has a guarantee that a violent criminal won't target them.	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#40
no one can guarantee a freedom from accidents and mistakes while using a firearm	DrDan	Sep 2012	#42
yet cars are more dangerous	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#44
so it is not the drivers . . hmmm . . .	DrDan	Sep 2012	#49
It is the drivers,	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#54
My probability of a gun accident is lower than the crime probability. N/T	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#77
but the possiblility exists, does it not?	DrDan	Sep 2012	#79
Of course it does.	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#88
Excellent contribution, GSC. Solid post. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#89
hmmmmmm - one of us has to carry - one of us does not	DrDan	Sep 2012	#90
One is pro-choice, the other is not. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#93
I choose no weapons	DrDan	Sep 2012	#96
Not everyone makes the same choice, but it's important that they get to choose. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#97
That is your choice	Missycim	Sep 2012	#98
your choice can still be restricted . . . until the NRA purchases the necessary legislation	DrDan	Sep 2012	#113
Well get cracking	Missycim	Sep 2012	#114
Not "has to carry", but chooses to carry.	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#116
I think there are many here who HAVE to carry . . . just my opinion, of course	DrDan	Sep 2012	#122
I think at least three	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#123
then there are a few who feel naked when not carrying	DrDan	Sep 2012	#124
Can't speak for them.	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#125
And no one has a guarantee that that gun won't go off accidentally.	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#232
Guns are really pretty simple	DaveBeal	Dec 2012	#235
Tone down the language pls. It only makes it harder to accept reality when you are proven to be	rDigital	Dec 2012	#236
Guns don't go off accidentally.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#237
Not luck? It's is the Law of Probability.	cleanhippie	Sep 2012	#158
good luck with that	DrDan	Sep 2012	#159
Good luck with what?	cleanhippie	Sep 2012	#167
It's not a matter of luck. It's a matter of REALITY.	MotherPetrie	Sep 2012	#33
Over 1.3 million victims of violent crime per year is also a REALITY. N/T	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#41
Consider yourself fortunate	Reasonable_Argument	Sep 2012	#47
Intense. Good share, solid post. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#50
Good post. Thanks for sharing.	Starboard Tack	Sep 2012	#71
Unexpected danger doesn't happen where you think it will	Reasonable_Argument	Sep 2012	#83
Ditto	1GirlieGirl	Sep 2012	#127
depends	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#128
Uh huh. EVERYONE.	1GirlieGirl	Sep 2012	#129
This message was self-deleted by its author	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#130
it is one thing for people who know what they are talking about	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#131
It is one thing for me to know what I'm talking about	1GirlieGirl	Sep 2012	#132
None of those links have anything to support your guess that more guns in the theater	petronius	Sep 2012	#134
i.e. more guns = more deaths	1GirlieGirl	Sep 2012	#135
Your links had to do with the prevalence of firearms within a general population	petronius	Sep 2012	#137
Sooooo,	rrneck	Sep 2012	#139
certainly not because more guns LEAD TO less crime . . . is it?	DrDan	Sep 2012	#144
No. nt	rrneck	Sep 2012	#148
we are talking about one specific case	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#136
absolutely agree - more John Wayne's are not needed	DrDan	Sep 2012	#143
whew. n/t	BlueToTheBone	Sep 2012	#7
But Civilization was diminished. Nt	xchrom	Sep 2012	#9
How? nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#12
+1000	Starboard Tack	Sep 2012	#73
I carried my kimber pepper blaster and knife to my sons football	ileus	Sep 2012	#10
I don't carry, but I didn't get shot either.	rrneck	Sep 2012	#11
I can beat that. I carried a gun today while purchsing another gun that I will soon carry	trouble.smith	Sep 2012	#13
B-bu-bu-butttt....	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#17
When we went to the range I carried my SR on my right and my LCP on my left hip.	ileus	Sep 2012	#24
Guns kill people.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#16
Pfffttt	Reasonable_Argument	Sep 2012	#18
.45's are for hillbillies.....	rDigital	Sep 2012	#20
I have ben known to carry a variety of CHL firearms.	oneshooter	Sep 2012	#21
I sold my P220 Elite SAO to a tunnel rat. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#25
Hillbilly you say...	Reasonable_Argument	Sep 2012	#36
LOL. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#107
HEY!!!! I resemble that remark!!!!	virginia mountainman	Sep 2012	#108
over 250 rounds without an incident also...	ileus	Sep 2012	#22
proud of my son as well . . . and my daughter	DrDan	Sep 2012	#38
My son turns 8 tomorrow	ileus	Sep 2012	#39
my son and daughter are older than yours - adults - educated - employed - hard workers	DrDan	Sep 2012	#43
Sounds like his children will be that much further ahead than yours...	Clames	Sep 2012	#45
very possible - but a lot can be said for being brought up in an environment absent of paranoia	DrDan	Sep 2012	#48
has nothing to do with paranoia	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#53
What does target shooting have to do with you imagined paranoia?	ileus	Sep 2012	#58
The phenomena we are observing here is called "projection bias". nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#67
So yours are paranoid of gun owners and inanimate objects?	Clames	Sep 2012	#69
not paranoid of gun owners and inanimate objects at all . . . .	DrDan	Sep 2012	#74
So can I.	Clames	Sep 2012	#78
I carried today as well.	Oneka	Sep 2012	#26
I didn't carry a lethal weapon today! And no one was hurt!!	1GirlieGirl	Sep 2012	#27
You own plenty of lethal weapons.	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#28
Yes. Life is very good for me indeed!	1GirlieGirl	Sep 2012	#29
This message was self-deleted by its author	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#30
4 days a week I carry open and concealed	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#31
Why?	Reasonable_Argument	Sep 2012	#37
Some departments require it, from most it is optional	ProgressiveProfessor	Sep 2012	#46
Our Dept. makes it optional	glacierbay	Sep 2012	#55
I didn't carry a gun today and nobody attacked me	MotherPetrie	Sep 2012	#32
That's cool! I'm very glad that you were able to make the choice that is best for you	petronius	Sep 2012	#34
I carry a gun every day and no one has ever been hurt by it.	rl6214	Sep 2012	#35
very impressive	randr	Sep 2012	#51
Why are you doing this? Intentional annoyance? Desperate for attention?	Buzz Clik	Sep 2012	#52
I carried the first part of today, now it's locked in the handgun safe	ileus	Sep 2012	#56
I don't carry, I'm not allowed to.	sir pball	Sep 2012	#57
You need to be one of the 1% then your 2A rights would extend to you.	ileus	Sep 2012	#59
Has there ever been a single instance....	Liberal Gramma	Sep 2012	#60
I would say yes	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#61
All I hope for	Liberal Gramma	Sep 2012	#63
Agreed but...	Reasonable_Argument	Sep 2012	#64
Valid point	Liberal Gramma	Sep 2012	#66
Well	Reasonable_Argument	Sep 2012	#70
OK, we've reached the point of agreeing to disagree	Liberal Gramma	Sep 2012	#72
"I do favor control of assault weapons."	Simo 1939_1940	Oct 2012	#205
I don't carry.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Sep 2012	#65
The difference is that pro-gunners rarely try to talk YOU into carrying something	Common Sense Party	Sep 2012	#121
Yes, but it is rather rare here.	GreenStormCloud	Sep 2012	#75
People can indeed, change.	Oneka	Sep 2012	#86
I am all for the 2nd Amendment, but some, like the OP seem a bit over the top	Vinnie From Indy	Sep 2012	#62
I don't know a day in the life of your common carrier is interesting.	ileus	Sep 2012	#68
That's just a juvenile opinion	rl6214	Sep 2012	#95
I rode my bike without a helmet today and didn't suffer a concussion. nt	Speck Tater	Sep 2012	#76
Heavens.'better take out a billboard. No, you need to hire the Goodyear Blimp! 24/7! Shout the news	hlthe2b	Sep 2012	#80
Fascinating. I saw a plane today and it didn't crash. I was amazed.	Starboard Tack	Sep 2012	#81
I don't own a gun, I am alive and kicking. And I went swimming too	graham4anything	Sep 2012	#82
Guns don't kill people...	deathrind	Sep 2012	#84
Herrington v. United States (2010)	petronius	Sep 2012	#91
And you have no right to access to ink or electrons....	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#92
I have no doubt that the 1A case regarding a tax on newspaper ink would serve	petronius	Sep 2012	#94
I'm gonna drop my 380 in my pocket shortly then go teach the youth group.	ileus	Sep 2012	#85
LCP right? You carry one in the chamber? nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#87
Yeah LCP condition one.	ileus	Sep 2012	#99
Another day another carry.	Oneka	Sep 2012	#100
Thank you for caring about society and your family.	ileus	Sep 2012	#106
You're welcome	Oneka	Sep 2012	#109
Love my Kahr CW9, perfect size for IWB for me	madville	Sep 2012	#101
congratulations	fascisthunter	Sep 2012	#102
The G17 is a little large for concealed carry (for me, anyway)	MercutioATC	Sep 2012	#103
Agreed. The g19 is a far better CCW piece. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#104
09/16/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#105
made it through the whole day without a crutch . . . er, a gun . . . without a single incident	DrDan	Sep 2012	#115
Me too! I love my non-paranoid world!	1GirlieGirl	Sep 2012	#126
same with my 2 children, both now adults	DrDan	Sep 2012	#145
what if	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#147
I am proud of them for staying away from guns	DrDan	Sep 2012	#150
So if one of them got a gold medal for	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#151
I am proud of their choice to stay away from guns	DrDan	Sep 2012	#152
I'm proud of both of my kids for a number of reasons	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#160
it is relevant to me . . . sign of maturity	DrDan	Sep 2012	#162
It is a cultural difference having nothing to do with maturity.	gejohnston	Sep 2012	#163
question whatever you like . . . but please do not speak for me	DrDan	Sep 2012	#170
Today, 9-16 Roadtrip home from beach vacation	virginia mountainman	Sep 2012	#110
don't	larwdem	Sep 2012	#111
What makes you think I'm male? nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#112
are those your hands in the OP pic?	ileus	Sep 2012	#117
Not my hands. You have good attention to detail. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#119
I doubt anyone will take gun advice from someone...	PavePusher	Sep 2012	#118
I carried a gun all day yesterday, and even met someone else who carried a gun.	chibajoe	Sep 2012	#120
LCP and M&P 9c....no incidents.	ileus	Sep 2012	#133
9-17 I carried all day, again and as usual...	virginia mountainman	Sep 2012	#138
With any luck I will have the engine for my Ferret completed next week.	oneshooter	Sep 2012	#142
Oneshooter, you have me at a disadvantage...	virginia mountainman	Sep 2012	#146
A Ferret is a British built all terrain vehicle.	oneshooter	Sep 2012	#149
And to keep this post gun related	oneshooter	Sep 2012	#165
Very VERY nice!!! LOL it don't take "clips" or "magazines"	virginia mountainman	Sep 2012	#169
09-17-12	Oneka	Sep 2012	#140
9/17/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#141
9/18/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#153
9/18 another LCP carry without incident.	ileus	Sep 2012	#154
9-18-12	Oneka	Sep 2012	#155
9/19/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#156
Another successful day of keeping me and my family protected.	ileus	Sep 2012	#161
I carried seven lethal weapons today (9/20) and no one was hurt by them.	friendly_iconoclast	Sep 2012	#164
09-19, another day another:	Oneka	Sep 2012	#166
That's a cute one! nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#168
9/20/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#171
9/21/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#172
You better wrap that death spewing killing machine	rrneck	Sep 2012	#173
I'm doing my best to keep it under wraps. I appreciate the concern. nt	rDigital	Sep 2012	#176
09-20 and 21	Oneka	Sep 2012	#174
I really appreciate that you are including pictures of your EDC. It adds a touch of reality to the	rDigital	Sep 2012	#177
6 days without incident this week.	ileus	Sep 2012	#175
9/22/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#178
09/23/2012: I carried a gun yesterday and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#179
09/24/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#180
09/25/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#181
09/26/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#182
I carry daily, will be carrying tonight when I check out the families business	oneshooter	Sep 2012	#183
09/27/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#184
09/28/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#185
Another 7 days of perfect carry.	ileus	Sep 2012	#186
But what about when you WEREN'T carrying the gun?	Shitty Mitty	Sep 2012	#187
Those days are rare, but I also have to sleep. You are an intelligent	rDigital	Sep 2012	#188
09/29/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#189
I OC'd yesterday and even encountered a bear.	ileus	Sep 2012	#190
09/30/2011: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Sep 2012	#191
Another day of super-safe carry. Thanks 2A...	ileus	Oct 2012	#192
I carried concealed into both a bank and a Credit Union today.	oneshooter	Oct 2012	#193
10/01/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#194
10/02/2012: I carried a gun today an no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#195
10/03/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#196
10/04/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#197
10/05/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#198
LCP while out, then my SR22 around the property....no incidents.	ileus	Oct 2012	#199
09-22, through today.	Oneka	Oct 2012	#200
10/06/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#201
10/07/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#202
10/08/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#203
Two more days with my PSD...no incidents.	ileus	Oct 2012	#206
10/09/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#207
10/10/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Oct 2012	#208
12/06/2012: I carried a gun today and no one was hurt by it.	rDigital	Dec 2012	#209
You must be an extremely strong person to resist the urgings of your evil	Simo 1939_1940	Dec 2012	#210
12/7/12 I carried my death spewing penis extension today and no one got	Berserker	Dec 2012	#216
Color me surprised... and not! ; ) nt	rDigital	Dec 2012	#217
You too, sir/maam - should be ashamed.	Simo 1939_1940	Dec 2012	#223
I ate the flesh of animals, and enjoyed it!	slackmaster	Dec 2012	#211
LOL, beef jerky FTW! nt	rDigital	Dec 2012	#212
A cow and a chicken died so that I could eat today.	GreenStormCloud	Dec 2012	#213
We are all very happy that you haven't hurt anyone yet.	Starboard Tack	Dec 2012	#214
I think the past is the best predictor of the future in my case. nt	rDigital	Dec 2012	#215
I agree. Hence my question.	Starboard Tack	Dec 2012	#219
I think I understand your question better now. (and I'm on a desktop now rather than an iPhone.)	rDigital	Dec 2012	#224
OK. So given all that, why do you carry?	Starboard Tack	Dec 2012	#225
I carry because I care.	rDigital	Dec 2012	#229
Stop trolling.	Clames	Dec 2012	#218
That's pretty funny, coming from our resident troll.	Starboard Tack	Dec 2012	#220
That's also another thing you lack.	Clames	Dec 2012	#222
Another great day without incident while carrying my PSD.	ileus	Dec 2012	#221
I had a rifle when I was a kid. No one got shot, but it did make my shoulder sore. ;)	ZombieHorde	Dec 2012	#226
When you gotta go, you gotta go. :) We have the enumerated right to dump. lol ; ) nt	rDigital	Dec 2012	#227
In the event ...	JEFF9K	Dec 2012	#228
My wife is on DU is well. She'll let you know! : ) nt	rDigital	Dec 2012	#230
So fucking what?	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#231
This message was self-deleted by its author	rDigital	Dec 2012	#233
2 more recs and on to the greatest page!! nt	rDigital	Dec 2012	#234

Edit History

Please login to view edit histories.