Gun Control & RKBA

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)

34. Oh I don't know,

Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:47 PM

Sep 2012

Run in to quite a few of them around here. Canadian flags still fly high in Florida trailer parks. In a couple of months my local Wal Mart parking lot will be filled with cars with Ontario plates.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

96 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Kansas supports suit opposing concealed-carry permit restrictions [View all] rDigital Sep 2012 OP

I remain amazed how so many can ignore the precedent established by PA (1776) and VT (1777). jody Sep 2012 #1

A little off topic, but as a side note: rDigital Sep 2012 #2

That's hilarious! No restrictions for those who qualify. What a load of gobbledygook! Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #3

"or what kind of guns they carry?" A few states,Californis and Mass. have your carry weapon oneshooter Sep 2012 #4

Why? It's called awareness. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #5

So you plan to pull a Hoyt, and detain people in order to check their papers? oneshooter Sep 2012 #6

What nonsense! Papers? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #10

But you care why we carry hack89 Sep 2012 #16

Starboard Jenoch Sep 2012 #20

No! Where did I say you should not be "allowed" to carry? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #21

Of course it is a legitimate form of self defense hack89 Sep 2012 #23

Angry DU Gun Lobby bongbong Sep 2012 #28

So you are a "show me your papers" kind of guy? hack89 Sep 2012 #7

Wrong! Just the opposite. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #12

But you do support citizens having to justify the exercising of a civil liberty hack89 Sep 2012 #13

You are trying to put words in my mouth. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #22

"Keep and bear arms" certainly covers concealed carry. hack89 Sep 2012 #24

2A does not cover CCW - that is the problem Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #25

And you have the case law to back up this assertion? hack89 Sep 2012 #26

Neither abortion, nor gay marriage, nor guns are mentioned in the constitution. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #38

Arms = weapons. Which included guns when the Constitution was written. hack89 Sep 2012 #39

Delving into silliness? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #45

Then show us the harm hack89 Sep 2012 #47

Do you think global warming happened overnight? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #49

So lets wait until you have some actual facts? hack89 Sep 2012 #50

The reduction in gun violence has no proven connection to CCW Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #58

let me get this straight MrDiaz Sep 2012 #63

But how do we measure the harm of CCW if not by people being shot? hack89 Sep 2012 #67

not buying it gejohnston Sep 2012 #52

In most states CCW isn't random. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #51

I didn't mean the issuing of permits was random, but the practice of carrying. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #55

those who carry illegally MrDiaz Sep 2012 #64

Rarely, especially in SYG states where murder has been reclassified. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #68

NO gejohnston Sep 2012 #71

yea MrDiaz Sep 2012 #78

Past actions are the best predictor of future actions. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #74

Yet you support 21 year old college students carrying on campus. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #80

By age 21 most people have establish their life-pattern. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #83

Scrap 2A? Not gonna happen. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #30

Not gonna happen anytime soon, maybe never. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #43

If a future SCOTUS gutted the 2A, a new, stronger 2A replacement would be passed. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #53

States are neither happy nor unhappy. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #59

The people in those 39 states have already decided. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #73

So that's how you roll in Texas Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #81

The same story has been played out in other states with other governors. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #84

"Democrats in other states have lost elections because they opposed concealed carry." Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #88

it's called the will of the people gejohnston Sep 2012 #89

Ah yes, the "will of the people". Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #90

propaganda shapes the will of the people. gejohnston Sep 2012 #91

"The only real solution is to scrap 2A and enact sensible legislation." oneshooter Sep 2012 #35

Good question. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #41

if he can just get the stun function down and perfected gejohnston Sep 2012 #44

Brilliant! Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #46

Check out this vomit flashlight: GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #56

If a law were to be passed Jenoch Sep 2012 #57

Well, it's a hypothetical, but I'll give it a shot. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #61

how about those MrDiaz Sep 2012 #65

What is the problem? Are you serious? Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #72

I'm not MrDiaz Sep 2012 #77

In a simplistic world maybe. Not in the real world. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #82

okay so what world MrDiaz Sep 2012 #85

There is zero evidence that carrying more guns around has reduced violence. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #86

yes you keep MrDiaz Sep 2012 #87

Some excerpted points discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #92

I don't think I have suggested a causal relationship between crime and firearm ownership. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #94

"Their presence in public would just die out. "?????? Jenoch Sep 2012 #69

Disarm the police? Not my wish. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #79

I have not posted anything Jenoch Sep 2012 #95

Disarming means taking them away. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #96

And how would you pay "fair market value" for those that are turned in. oneshooter Sep 2012 #62

Beats me. Jenoch Sep 2012 #70

Situational awareness Reasonable_Argument Sep 2012 #8

Correct. And neither does a gun protect you from all of life's dangers. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #11

X1000 Situational awareness has saved more lives than any tool could. rDigital Sep 2012 #19

Agreed! bongbong Sep 2012 #29

The bong crowds latest stupid terminology..."Delicate Flowers" rl6214 Sep 2012 #32

Yes! bongbong Sep 2012 #37

Well if it makes you feel better and helps get your panties unbunched and you feel the need rl6214 Sep 2012 #40

LOLOLOLOL bongbong Sep 2012 #42

Poor Bongbong. aikoaiko Sep 2012 #66

Well.... Kezzy604 Sep 2012 #33

Oh I don't know, gejohnston Sep 2012 #34

"That's why so many Europeans avoid America when picking a vacation destination." Jenoch Sep 2012 #36

That post is why we pro-RKBA frequently post ancedotes about gun saves. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #31

Tx stats show YOU that. They prove nothing. Neither do anecdotes. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #48

Have you looked at the Texas stats.? GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #54

Arithmetic tends to be straight forward. Starboard Tack Sep 2012 #60

So you throw away information you don't like. GreenStormCloud Sep 2012 #75

the police are not "we the people" gejohnston Sep 2012 #18

You don't have the right to make that choice for me or my family. Atypical Liberal Sep 2012 #27

This issue is the crux of one of the more gigantic frauds going. discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #9

This is Texas, I have to carry all of them oneshooter Sep 2012 #15

That's fine discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2012 #17

Finally true progressiveness.... ileus Sep 2012 #14

I would expect nothing less from the backward state of KS MotherPetrie Sep 2012 #76

I take it you don't care for their 'reasonable' and 'common-sense' abortion restrictions as well? friendly_iconoclast Sep 2012 #93